FastMail’s servers are in the US – what this means for you

Re:FastMail’s servers are in the US – what this means for you by bad_user on Monday October 07, 2013 @02:26AM (#6506756)

I found this article brutally honest. What they are saying is that (1) NSA snooping is more expensive for the NSA as they can't engage in blanket surveillance on all of their users, while keeping them silent, but on the other hand (2) you can't expect and shouldn't assume privacy, because if the NSA wants to listen on your traffic, they will.

This in combination with FastMail being acquired by its former employees, coupled with their investment in CardDAV and CalDAV, makes me really excited about them. I was actually looking for a good replacement to Google Apps and FastMail might be it. It's still a little expensive though, compared to Google Apps, I hope they'll bring those prices down just a little.

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Re:FastMail’s servers are in the US – what this means for you by pppp on Monday October 07, 2013 @11:53AM (#6509036)

I am more than willing to give FastMail twenty USD per year, so it is not expensive in that regard, but it is expense for what you get. 1GB of space? Give me a break. All of the tiers need to shift down a notch while keeping the price the same. $20 for 10 GB would be reasonable.

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Re:FastMail’s servers are in the US – what this means for you by bad_user on Monday October 07, 2013 @12:23PM (#6509284)

Well, that's what I meant. I pay something like $50 / user account yearly in Google Apps and I get 30 GB of space, plus Contacts, Calendar, Google Hangouts, Drive and all the other goodies. Paying $60 per year for email with 15 GB of storage seems kind of expensive.

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Re:FastMail’s servers are in the US – what this means for you by TwoBit on Monday October 07, 2013 @02:29AM (#6506761)

I think there's reason to believe that a targeting a person like Snowden would cause the U.S. to use the most extreme measures discussed in the post, such as seizing the servers.

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Re:FastMail’s servers are in the US – what this means for you by brongondwana on Monday October 07, 2013 @05:08AM (#6507165)

The point is, they wouldn't need to, because the Australian Government would order us to turn over the data, and we would. Everybody wins (except theoretical-Snowden)

Mind you, theoretical-Snowden is already screwed at this point, regardless of where his mail is. No reason to believe any European country would be susceptible to pressure:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-23174874

Or maybe there is.

Which comes back to the point I've been trying to make all along here. In the most serious extreme, nowhere in the world is "safe". In a less serious case, nobody's going to invade NYI with jackboots on. The window between those two cases is where being not-in-USA could theoretically save us from having our servers snatched (assuming said jackboots weren't willing to just wait for the Australian Government to order us to hand the data over)

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