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Re:Mozilla bug 923590: Pledge never to implement HTML5 DRM by gizzlon on Friday October 04, 2013 @04:17AM (#6494299)
Really? At least half of my "normal" friends know how to torrent stuff.

That any normal people would torrent anything says a lot. Normally convenience wins. Maybe torrenting actually is the easiest way to get some content? For me, it's a no-brainer[1], but it's more surprising if this is the case for normal people as well. That should open the eyes of some content providers, but of course it won't.

[1] - Meaning that for me as a technical user, torrenting is really easy. Some things have just started to compete, like spotify, netflix and hbo online, but they are often crippled in other ways.

Re:Mozilla bug 923590: Pledge never to implement HTML5 DRM by dublinben on Friday October 04, 2013 @10:51AM (#6495666)
Everything you're downloading has already been stripped of the DRM by someone else. You're not stripping the DRM yourself, and I doubt most torrent users know how. You're just proving their point.
Re:Mozilla bug 923590: Pledge never to implement HTML5 DRM by icebraining on Friday October 04, 2013 @11:07AM (#6495762)
The point is that DRM doesn't effectively protect content, since hundreds of millions of regular individuals can rather easily access "pirated" copies. Whether the protection is broken by their grandmothers or by a single über cracker is irrelevant.
Re:Mozilla bug 923590: Pledge never to implement HTML5 DRM by dublinben on Friday October 04, 2013 @02:24PM (#6497042)
I don't believe that anyone thinks DRM effectively protects content, even the companies employing it.
Re:Mozilla bug 923590: Pledge never to implement HTML5 DRM by joshstrange on Friday October 04, 2013 @03:53PM (#6497535)
I'm confused, 3 comments above this you say he is proving their point because the majority of people can't break the DRM but instead get a version that has already had the DRM removed.

"Their point" to reiterate was "Realistically, DRM keeps the majority of users from pirating content".

Yet then right here you say "I don't believe that anyone thinks DRM effectively protects content, even the companies employing it."

Which is the exact opposite of the point they are making....