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Re:AT&T Is Screwing Over US iPhone Users by joezydeco on Monday June 08, 2009 @03:39PM (#647847)
Go check out the fine print where AT&T wants $400 from you to break the contract on your existing 3G and buy the 3GS.
Re:AT&T Is Screwing Over US iPhone Users by tptacek on Monday June 08, 2009 @06:47PM (#648166)
There are lots of good examples of AT&T screwing iPhone customers. This is a bad example. Apple sets the price on the device. If AT&T has already subsidized an Apple device for you in exchange for a contract, and you haven't completed the contract, how do you argue that AT&T owes you another phone?
Re:AT&T Is Screwing Over US iPhone Users by gojomo on Monday June 08, 2009 @07:00PM (#648190)
Unless the rep I spoke to an hour ago was hiding something, the cancel-early fee is only $125. Then, you're free to get a new-contract-subsidized phone from AT&T or anyone else.

That makes the righteousness of a $400 differential for existing 3G contractholders a little incongruous.

Update: According to MobileCrunch, the 'early upgrade' prices for 3G owners are just +$200, not +$400, over the fully-subsidized prices. That make a lot more sense -- both compared to the early-cancellation penalties and a pro-rata accounting for the previous subsidy. See:

http://www.mobilecrunch.com/2009/06/08/want-to-upgrade-to-an...

Re:AT&T Is Screwing Over US iPhone Users by smokey_the_bear on Monday June 08, 2009 @04:31PM (#647923)
This doesn't make sense. It would only cost 150 for me to break my existing contract.
Re:AT&T Is Screwing Over US iPhone Users by dschobel on Monday June 08, 2009 @04:36PM (#647933)
You'd think they would be thrilled to have your contract extended a further two years. I just don't see the rational in punishing their customers.
Re:AT&T Is Screwing Over US iPhone Users by run4yourlives on Monday June 08, 2009 @05:59PM (#648093)
Rational: Next quarter's profits. We'll worry about 6 quarters from now when we get there.
Re:AT&T Is Screwing Over US iPhone Users by zacharypinter on Monday June 08, 2009 @03:52PM (#647866)
Is this confirmed? There wasn't a penalty on iPhone 2G -> 3G upgrades, and the keynote mentioned the $199 price was for new and qualifying customers.
Re:AT&T Is Screwing Over US iPhone Users by pjhyett on Monday June 08, 2009 @03:58PM (#647877)
"AT&T customers who want to upgrade from another phone or replace an iPhone 3G, the price with a new two-year agreement is $499 (8GB), $599 (16GB), or $699 (32GB)."

http://www.apple.com/iphone/buy

Re:AT&T Is Screwing Over US iPhone Users by dschobel on Monday June 08, 2009 @04:35PM (#647928)
AT&T is building up so much ill-will for their terrible network, god help them should they ever lose iphone exclusivity.
Re:AT&T Is Screwing Over US iPhone Users by gojomo on Monday June 08, 2009 @04:39PM (#647939)
Wow. The fee to early-cancel is (at least for my iPhone 3G) only $125. So it's cheaper to cancel-and-rebuy ($125 + new-with-contract-cost) than upgrade ($400 + new-with-contract-cost).

There does not appear to be a waiting period for rebuying, at least according to the rep I just spoke with. In fact, while I did not specifically ask about the 3gs, she seemed to imply the optimal path might be (1) add a new line (qualifies for new pricing); (2) cancel old line (paying the early-cancel fee).

Re:AT&T Is Screwing Over US iPhone Users by Xichekolas on Monday June 08, 2009 @05:28PM (#648037)
I assume if you take that path, you'd end up with a new number, which is kind of annoying.
Re:AT&T Is Screwing Over US iPhone Users by weaksauce on Monday June 08, 2009 @07:55PM (#648258)
If you add the line then transfer the number to the new phone and cancel the original line it might work.
Re:AT&T Is Screwing Over US iPhone Users by gojomo on Monday June 08, 2009 @05:43PM (#648063)
If the juggle is possible at all, there should be a way to keep the number, too. The local number portability rules and processes are now fairly well-established; you could even park your number at a landline or pay-as-you-go account for a short while if a direct swap was disallowed.
Re:AT&T Is Screwing Over US iPhone Users by smokey_the_bear on Monday June 08, 2009 @06:05PM (#648101)
Do you know if you'd lose access to the apps you'd purchased if you did that?
Re:AT&T Is Screwing Over US iPhone Users by gojomo on Monday June 08, 2009 @06:54PM (#648181)
Not sure, and the path remains a untested hypothetical. If they're really trying to charge other 3G->3GS upgrades $400, there might be additional roadblocks thrown up.

I thought all purchased apps were linked to the ITunes account, rather than carrier account... so I would again expect there's a way to carry them forward, but I may be overly optimistic.

Re:AT&T Is Screwing Over US iPhone Users by kylec on Monday June 08, 2009 @08:18PM (#648281)
You are correct - apps are linked with your iTunes account, not your AT&T account. I was able to transfer paid apps from my iPod touch to my iPhone when I upgraded without a problem.
Re:AT&T Is Screwing Over US iPhone Users by Alex3917 on Monday June 08, 2009 @03:54PM (#647874)
It's confirmed. Presumably 2G customers qualify for upgrades to the 3GS though.

edit: It is now confirmed that 2G users qualify for upgrades to the 3GS at the subsidized prices.

Re:AT&T Is Screwing Over US iPhone Users by msluyter on Monday June 08, 2009 @04:42PM (#647945)
Yep; I just did it and was charged $299 for the new 32GB phone. (I have the first generation iPhone. I guess I should also note that I bought it the first day it was available back in '07, so my original 2 year contract is near expiring. Not sure what the case would be for someone who bought a phone in, say, Dec 07.)
Re:AT&T Is Screwing Over US iPhone Users by jws on Monday June 08, 2009 @05:04PM (#647996)
The $299 is only half of the cost, you also get to pay an extra $360 over the 2 year contract in higher monthly fees compared to the original iPhone.

I think I'll hold on to my original and hope for a new carrier in 2010. The features are great, but AT&T's call handling is not acceptable, I don't need to extend that contract.