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Re:Federal Government Begins First Shutdown In 17 Years by vacri on Tuesday October 01, 2013 @12:39AM (#6474076)
Will they stop taxing us?

Taxes are not evil, bad, or wrong. Excessive taxes are something you can argue about, but the mere existence of them is not evidence of evil.

Re:Federal Government Begins First Shutdown In 17 Years by throwaway420 on Tuesday October 01, 2013 @12:44AM (#6474109)
Thanks for clarifying for me what opinions I'm allowed to have.
Re:Federal Government Begins First Shutdown In 17 Years by vacri on Tuesday October 01, 2013 @01:14AM (#6474221)
It appears that you don't think I should be allowed to share opinions of my own. This is curious, given your clear opposition to the trappings of oppression.
Re:Federal Government Begins First Shutdown In 17 Years by aroman on Tuesday October 01, 2013 @01:25AM (#6474276)
I think he was objecting to your presentation of your opinion as axiomatic fact.

(Notice, for what it's worth, that I said "I think" and not "Actually, he was". The core meaning is the same, but the former phrasing makes it more clear that I am aware the statement was my opinion. Acknowledging that something you say is an opinion is an important part of having a healthy discussion, I think.)

Re:Federal Government Begins First Shutdown In 17 Years by throwaway420 on Tuesday October 01, 2013 @01:43AM (#6474351)
> Excessive taxes are something you can argue about

* I mainly took objection with the implication of your use of the phrase "you can argue about". To me, that phrase either implies that you're saying that I'm not allowed to argue some alternative position, or that somehow my position is the logical equivalent of 1 + 1 = blue.

* I don't have a problem if you disagree with my political viewpoint. In fact, I welcome interesting objections because I usually learn more about peoples' motivations and that helps open up my mind and sharpens my own positions.

* I don't fear a debate about the ethics of taxation and would gladly engage in one with you if you wanted, but I think that would be a further derail from this thread. My main point in posting my original statement was to point out how inaccurate the media is in calling this a shut down when many of the biggest parts of the underlying system keep on trucking.

Re:Federal Government Begins First Shutdown In 17 Years by ThomPete on Tuesday October 01, 2013 @12:47AM (#6474122)
Claiming that taxes are evil or good is hardly HN material. You are entitled to your opinion but please focus on factual matters, not just opinion pieces. I am sure we all have ours.
Re:Federal Government Begins First Shutdown In 17 Years by davidw on Tuesday October 01, 2013 @01:12AM (#6474213)
This whole article is not HN material, really. You can see why, too: most of the comments are extremely predictable, and predictably bad.
Re:Federal Government Begins First Shutdown In 17 Years by 001sky on Tuesday October 01, 2013 @12:54AM (#6474144)
Claiming that taxes are evil or good is hardly HN material.

There was no such claim. Irony is not logic. Have the thought police out-lawed it on HN?