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Re:Bing’s Reign As #2 Search Engine Lasted One Day by rw on Sunday June 07, 2009 @07:12PM (#646510)
The TC hype machine's two-step pass is operating at full efficiency:

1) Make a dramatic generalization from obviously-inadequate data. 2) Write a followup when better data proves it wrong.

Re:Bing’s Reign As #2 Search Engine Lasted One Day by staticshock on Sunday June 07, 2009 @08:40PM (#646605)
what if the down-trend is as short lived as that initial spike was? nothing has been proven wrong yet (based on your own argument, in fact.) the data isn't "better" yet.
Re:Bing’s Reign As #2 Search Engine Lasted One Day by jpd on Sunday June 07, 2009 @08:03PM (#646567)
Uhm... where better data is the exact same source as they used before?
Re:Bing’s Reign As #2 Search Engine Lasted One Day by rw on Sunday June 07, 2009 @08:19PM (#646580)
Better data is over a longer span of time.
Re:Bing’s Reign As #2 Search Engine Lasted One Day by mikedouglas on Sunday June 07, 2009 @08:31PM (#646596)
I'm not sure what you're saying. StatsCounter (the source of the data) reported that Bing was briefly a more popular referral than Yahoo, but that the trend has now reversed. If you don't trust the June 4th data, I can't see how you can then accept the June 6th/7th data. The time span over each day is exactly the same.
Re:Bing’s Reign As #2 Search Engine Lasted One Day by dsil on Sunday June 07, 2009 @09:33PM (#646646)
The point is that the one day they were above yahoo is also the one day they launched, and got everyone trying it for the first time and tons of launch-day media coverage. The number could be 100% accurate, it still doesn't mean much.
Re:Bing’s Reign As #2 Search Engine Lasted One Day by rw on Sunday June 07, 2009 @08:55PM (#646618)
TC is drawing conclusions based on one data point. I dispute how they are using the data, not whether that data is accurate.

I wonder if their CPM will go down as a result of all this hype-cycling.

Re:Bing’s Reign As #2 Search Engine Lasted One Day by jpd on Monday June 08, 2009 @09:00AM (#647193)
My apologies, when you said "write a followup when better data proves it wrong," I thought you were suggesting that it was now good data.
Re:Bing’s Reign As #2 Search Engine Lasted One Day by erlanger on Sunday June 07, 2009 @08:25PM (#646591)
Would you prefer that they not report on available data? Everyone knows that it's pop journalism, not a government commission report.

Arrington is closer to the tech Zeitgeist than he gets credit for on this site.

Re:Bing’s Reign As #2 Search Engine Lasted One Day by ori_b on Sunday June 07, 2009 @07:45PM (#646548)
Really, was this unexpected?

This can be summarized as "New search engine gets spike as people try it out of curiosity" -- I'd be surprised if there wasn't a temporary jump in users around launch time.

Re:Bing’s Reign As #2 Search Engine Lasted One Day by TwoBit on Monday June 08, 2009 @01:51AM (#646889)
Type "linux" into Google and you get good sensible answers. Type "linux" into Bing and you get something obviously tainted by the marketing department.

Microsoft can't hope to win with this attitude. Nobody is going to use a search engine which can't be trusted.

Re:Bing’s Reign As #2 Search Engine Lasted One Day by chadgeidel on Monday June 08, 2009 @01:58AM (#646894)
I'm not sure that's the case. Using the "blind comparison" site (linked earlier) I can't immediately distinguish "something obviously tainted by the marketing department"

http://blindsearch.fejus.com/?q=linux

Re:Bing’s Reign As #2 Search Engine Lasted One Day by natmaster on Monday June 08, 2009 @02:24AM (#646913)
The results for the search 'linux' are nearly identical for the first page. In fact, the first result is exactly the same.
Re:Bing’s Reign As #2 Search Engine Lasted One Day by yagiz on Monday June 08, 2009 @03:04AM (#646938)
I think he means the auto completion suggestions, not the search results.
Re:Bing’s Reign As #2 Search Engine Lasted One Day by blasdel on Monday June 08, 2009 @04:35AM (#647004)
While that used to be the case with MSN Search / Live Search, it hasn't been true for a while (at least in the US index).
Re:Bing’s Reign As #2 Search Engine Lasted One Day by amichail on Sunday June 07, 2009 @07:58PM (#646560)
Is it just me or does Google seem rather quiet about Bing?

It seems that they don't see it as a threat at all.

Re:Bing’s Reign As #2 Search Engine Lasted One Day by snprbob86 on Sunday June 07, 2009 @08:02PM (#646565)
What would you expect them to say? Anything they say simply draws attention to a competitor.
Re:Bing’s Reign As #2 Search Engine Lasted One Day by amichail on Sunday June 07, 2009 @09:45PM (#646656)
Given how much MS will be spending on advertising, everyone will probably know about it anyway.

An obvious thing for Google to say (if true): Google researchers have evaluated Bing results and have found them to be inferior.

Re:Bing’s Reign As #2 Search Engine Lasted One Day by froo on Sunday June 07, 2009 @09:54PM (#646666)
Well look at the opposite side of the coin, what if Google researchers do evaluate Bing results and don't find them to be inferior. Google internal documents have been leaked before...

... I think it's better to just leave that Pandora's Box unopened and let your search results and positive image speak for itself.