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Re:Why Free Software Is More Important Now Than Ever Before by epistasis on Saturday September 28, 2013 @07:54PM (#6463530)
I wish he'd stop using the word "free" and only use "libre." The FSF and Stallman's definition of "free" (as it pertains to freedom) is not mine, and I have found few that actually agree with it. Open source's definition of freedom is far more universal, I believe. And using "libre" also gets around the "free as in pizza" distinction.
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Re:Why Free Software Is More Important Now Than Ever Before by chatman on Saturday September 28, 2013 @08:04PM (#6463560)
Open source's definition is incomplete when it comes to protecting the freedom of users. And, libre doesn't imply "free as in pizza" to me.
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Re:Why Free Software Is More Important Now Than Ever Before by jlgreco on Saturday September 28, 2013 @09:28PM (#6463737)
> And, libre doesn't imply "free as in pizza" to me.

Probably because it is not suppose to....

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Re:Why Free Software Is More Important Now Than Ever Before by vezzy-fnord on Saturday September 28, 2013 @10:06PM (#6463818)
That's because open source is not necessarily related to freedom. It's a purely pragmatic issue, though a core property of free software, but by itself it does not guarantee freedom.

Also, free beer > free pizza.

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Re:Why Free Software Is More Important Now Than Ever Before by dllthomas on Sunday September 29, 2013 @10:04AM (#6465201)
Gratis source once you've been (legitimately) given the binaries is a core property of free software. Gratis in general is a common but incidental property of free software.
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Re:Why Free Software Is More Important Now Than Ever Before by thejteam on Saturday September 28, 2013 @08:01PM (#6463553)
I don't like "free" but I wouldn't want a new term to explain to a layperson either.
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Re:Why Free Software Is More Important Now Than Ever Before by kunai on Saturday September 28, 2013 @08:57PM (#6463676)
Libre. Liberty.

Done.

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Re:Why Free Software Is More Important Now Than Ever Before by quadrangle on Sunday September 29, 2013 @02:54AM (#6464379)
Yeah, but remember, as long as others don't agree, it's tough. There's "free" "libre" and "open". The only answer is to say: THOSE THINGS. So, use "free/libre/open" i.e. FLO
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Re:Why Free Software Is More Important Now Than Ever Before by Daishiman on Saturday September 28, 2013 @08:58PM (#6463679)
That's more of a problem with the English language.
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Re:Why Free Software Is More Important Now Than Ever Before by elclanrs on Saturday September 28, 2013 @11:30PM (#6463997)
Right, gratis = free, libre = free.
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