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Re:48 of 48 by johnnybgoode on Sunday June 07, 2009 @01:18AM (#645596)
The bullying in schools, the ostracism of anyone different, the teasing. This is not learned behaviour, it is the default state, to be overcome by education and socialisation

I think the problems you mention are largely caused by today's school environments, not cured by them.

Re:48 of 48 by endtime on Sunday June 07, 2009 @01:43AM (#645623)
This strikes me as a lofty-sounding statement that may not actually mean very much. I'd love to hear you elaborate and contradict me.

I think the US public school system is deeply flawed, but one of the few things I don't blame it for is the cruelty of children. Kids are just cruel.

Re:48 of 48 by pj on Sunday June 07, 2009 @02:01AM (#645646)
there was a video on the news the other day that some kids with cell phones had recorded of this one kid beating the crap out of another kid and it was the kid getting beat up who was punished by the school.
Re:48 of 48 by endtime on Sunday June 07, 2009 @02:09AM (#645660)
Okay, that's a fair point. There are some very stupid policies concerning fights - I've seen my younger brother be penalized for defending himself as well. But it is silly to say that schools cause the fights in the first place, and/or that kids, left to their own devices, would be civil to one another.
Re:48 of 48 by sho on Sunday June 07, 2009 @03:03AM (#645699)
One anecdote does not a general rule make.
Re:48 of 48 by johnnybgoode on Sunday June 07, 2009 @01:58AM (#645643)
You're not contradicting me, because I'm not saying schools are entirely responsible for the cruelty of children. However, the problems are exacerbated by the environment.
Re:48 of 48 by endtime on Sunday June 07, 2009 @02:12AM (#645665)
Okay, well we agree on that point. :)