The new Galaxy Note 3 is region-locked

Re:The new Galaxy Note 3 is region-locked by carlosrg on Thursday September 26, 2013 @02:42PM (#6452746)

I hope you're trolling or joking. Comparing a Pizza Hut bookmark with iOS built-in apps, just wow.

I mean, I knew Apple haters were dense but this is excessive.

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Re:The new Galaxy Note 3 is region-locked by piyush_soni on Thursday September 26, 2013 @03:32PM (#6453061)

Really, I think the same. Comparing just a browser bookmark which doesn't always come in your way with an ever intrusive app and loving crapware just because it's from their loved company? I mean, I knew Apple fans are dense, but this is excessive.

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Re:The new Galaxy Note 3 is region-locked by sjwright on Thursday September 26, 2013 @09:40PM (#6454748)

I can't delete your post from Hacker News. Therefore by your logic it's also intrusive crapware.

Sigh.

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Re:The new Galaxy Note 3 is region-locked by piyush_soni on Thursday September 26, 2013 @11:44PM (#6455133)

Aah. You don't pay to come here, and it's not your property. It's a public forum, which by definition has comments from people which you might or might not like :). Here, only the comments which public on the whole like should be there - and that is already the case - if majority doesn't like it, it'll automatically get suppressed. A phone is a different thing - it's a personal property. Only the things you like should be there on your phone. If that's not the case, it's bad - now favoring one more intrusive crapware and cursing a less intrusive one because of a bias, is bad.

Anyway, you completely missed the point of my comment :).

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Re:The new Galaxy Note 3 is region-locked by sjwright on Friday September 27, 2013 @05:02AM (#6456022)

> Only the things you like should be there on your phone.

Moral of the story: don't live in the USA.

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Re:The new Galaxy Note 3 is region-locked by piyush_soni on Friday September 27, 2013 @04:15PM (#6459234)

Or, just buy an unlocked (carrier free) phone, rooted. That's what I do.

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Re:The new Galaxy Note 3 is region-locked by carlosrg on Friday September 27, 2013 @09:59AM (#6457025)

Whatever. I just can't argue with a person that believes an ad is the same as a built-in functionality. I can't understand what kind of logic and thinking is going in your head, really.

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Re:The new Galaxy Note 3 is region-locked by gcb0 on Friday September 27, 2013 @02:41PM (#6458724)

Well, you can still order pizza trhu the "ad" app. so let's call that built-in functionality as well, shall we?

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Re:The new Galaxy Note 3 is region-locked by sbuk on Saturday September 28, 2013 @03:49AM (#6461270)

How about we call it what it is. Advertising. However you frame it, it's advertising. Is it useful? Who cares. It's advertising. Order a pizza using the app and your telco gets paid. Twice. Being able to remove Apple's built in apps is besides the point. Yes, it's mildly irritating that this can't be done, but it's not the same thing. Pretending otherwise is disingenuous.

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Re:The new Galaxy Note 3 is region-locked by gcb0 on Wednesday October 02, 2013 @06:22PM (#6485838)

So if a site shows ads for its sister sites it's less intrusive then an ad for a pizza?

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Re:The new Galaxy Note 3 is region-locked by sbuk on Saturday October 05, 2013 @03:37AM (#6499875)

What has that got to do with anything? We are talking about an app! Not a blockable ad on a webpage FFS.

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Re:The new Galaxy Note 3 is region-locked by ankitml on Friday September 27, 2013 @01:32AM (#6455400)

no one has paid apple to do that. It is not an advertisement. It is more of like internet explorer built in. Whereas undeletable advertisement bookmark is like having a unchangable wallpaper by some third party.

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Re:The new Galaxy Note 3 is region-locked by piyush_soni on Thursday October 03, 2013 @01:52PM (#6490624)

No. Undeleteable advertisement bookmark is just like an undeleteable advertisement bookmark. It's NOT like an unchangeable wallpaper. Bookmark is not always in your eyes - even when you are using the browser! I am surprised that so many iOS fans have trouble understanding it. The unwanted Apple apps, on the other hand, are ALWAYS in your eyes. You understand the difference now?

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Re:The new Galaxy Note 3 is region-locked by eropple on Thursday September 26, 2013 @07:01PM (#6454161)

Newsstand is spam if you want nothing to do with it. It is an imposition upon the device I own. With Android, I can disable any app I want, even built-in ones (for example, Samsung includes a bookmark provider that adds Samsung bookmarks, which I don't want).

Here's a thought: when all you can do is rail against the "haters", you are in a bad state of mind.

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Re:The new Galaxy Note 3 is region-locked by siglesias on Thursday September 26, 2013 @07:33PM (#6454270)

Is the phone app spam if I want nothing to do with it? The music app if I don't listen to music? Get real. There's a difference between Newsstand, which exists because it's very common for touch-device users to consolidate their reading subscriptions (as there is one for music and videos), and bloatware, which third parties pay companies to add to the OS and which detract from the experience.

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Re:The new Galaxy Note 3 is region-locked by eropple on Thursday September 26, 2013 @10:17PM (#6454876)

> Is the phone app spam if I want nothing to do with it? The music app if I don't listen to music?

Yes. This is quite real of me, I assure you. If I can't make it Go Away if I have no use for it, it's spam. As it happens, I've consolidated my reading. It isn't in Newsstand. It should not trouble me if I don't want it, and having a "junk" drawer is a sad non-solution.

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Re:The new Galaxy Note 3 is region-locked by siglesias on Friday September 27, 2013 @01:55AM (#6455453)

The common definition of spam is something that most people consider junk but a few people might use, thus justifying inflicting it upon everyone. Your definition is almost the opposite: something that most people find useful but that you happen not to need. This is an abuse if not outright misuse of the term.

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Re:The new Galaxy Note 3 is region-locked by do-it-good on Friday September 27, 2013 @12:28PM (#6457792)

Haha, many people just find it too painful to admit they were ever wrong. So once they say they support a given team, party, church, company they start ignoring all evidence against it.

Interesting how after your original argument (the difference between app and bookmark) was defeated you came up with a new one (percentage of people liking).

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Re:The new Galaxy Note 3 is region-locked by siglesias on Friday September 27, 2013 @12:48PM (#6457906)

I don't think anybody made the claim that no app is spam, only, from what I can tell, that no iOS built-in app is spam. Which is more than lots of Android phones can say about their built-in apps.

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Re:The new Galaxy Note 3 is region-locked by eropple on Friday September 27, 2013 @02:42PM (#6458736)

Many people enjoy getting political news emailed to them. Many, many people. Yet it infuriates me when it gets forwarded to me because it is--wait for it--spam. It is annoying crap I don't want.

Spam is defined as whether it annoys the receiver, not the sender's intentions. And there's no 'unsubscribe' in iOS.

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Re:The new Galaxy Note 3 is region-locked by r00fus on Thursday September 26, 2013 @02:42PM (#6452741)

They aren't blatant advertisements like the Pizza Hut link. There's quite a difference.

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Re:The new Galaxy Note 3 is region-locked by 1qaz2wsx3edc on Thursday September 26, 2013 @01:51PM (#6452393)

True, but at least nothing from third parties

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Re:The new Galaxy Note 3 is region-locked by kintamanimatt on Thursday September 26, 2013 @02:11PM (#6452541)

What's the difference? Crapware is crapware no matter who the vendor is.

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Re:The new Galaxy Note 3 is region-locked by signa11 on Thursday September 26, 2013 @02:46PM (#6452765)

on a browser, would you rather go with suggestive ads by say google, or have google actually install an adbar that everyone under the sun can spam you with ?

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Re:The new Galaxy Note 3 is region-locked by epo on Thursday September 26, 2013 @03:32PM (#6453065)

And IMMEDIATELY the fandroids come out and pretend that we should be talking about how bad Apple is. +1 for the comment somewhere about how dense Android fans appear to be.

However bad you think Apple might be, Samsung is far, far worse, just much less successful and slick about it. I had thought the old adage about "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" was only believed by halfwits, apparently I was wrong.

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Re:The new Galaxy Note 3 is region-locked by malandrew on Thursday September 26, 2013 @04:04PM (#6453277)

FWIW, I was the first one in this thread to point out the app deletion issue on the iPhone and I am an iPhone user and haven't yet owned an Android. Undeletable crapware is crapware whether it is installed by Apple, Samsung or the carriers.

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