Re:Temperature chart for the last 11,000 years
by hrkristian on Saturday September 21, 2013 @04:11PM
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Fair points in general on short-term solutions, but citation seriously needed on where you get 12 meters higher sea levels and 100 degrees C from.
In fact those two would essentially climax hilariously, because at 100 degrees the sea will be in the atmosphere, thousands of metres high.
Re:Temperature chart for the last 11,000 years
by seszett on Saturday September 21, 2013 @04:13PM
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I got them in the same place the GP got their 50°C from, I presume - my ass.
The point is: there is no predictable upper limit, period.
Re:Temperature chart for the last 11,000 years
by Dylan16807 on Saturday September 21, 2013 @04:32PM
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I wasn't trying to give a real number, I was saying that 'too hot, planetwide' is rather unrealistic. The initial ass-number was '6', why does your argument rely on numbers an order of magnitude larger?
Re:Temperature chart for the last 11,000 years
by seszett on Saturday September 21, 2013 @04:40PM
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Because there is no predictable upper limit, and any quick fix is at immediate risk of not being enough shortly later.
Re:Temperature chart for the last 11,000 years
by Dylan16807 on Saturday September 21, 2013 @04:45PM
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I think it's perfectly reasonable to postpone worrying about 50+ degrees until it's already shifted at least 5. If it turns out 5 is terrible, we'll have hundreds of years to implement plans to stop 50.
If you think 5 degrees is catastrophic, then sure worry about that in 2013. But it won't make the planet uninhabitable.
But most importantly... +50°C is survivable ? OK. Then when the temperature reaches +75°C, what do we do ? +100°C ?
I'm surprised at how many people seem to think we can simply patch problems from day to day and only do anything short term. It seems extraordinarily short-sighted to me.
Building dikes? Sure, building dams for sealevel three meters higher sounds reasonable, right? Oh well, that's what the Netherlands already have? Let's just build a new six-meter dam then, where's the problem? Well, six meters might be doable, but what do we do when 12 meters are needed? 50? 100?