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Re:Gabe Newell: Linux is the future of gaming, new hardware ... by Mikeb85 on Monday September 16, 2013 @03:29PM (#6395294)
Really? The Surface has been a complete and utter failure. Not to mention, the ARM version of the Surface won't run Steam, and games for Windows RT are far fewer than for proper Windows 8.

Fact is, the best interfaces for serious gamers are either keyboard + mouse, or a game pad. Even if touch was the next big input, Linux has it, and Canonical is talking about merging Ubuntu touch into Ubuntu desktop in 14.04.

Re:Gabe Newell: Linux is the future of gaming, new hardware ... by MLR on Monday September 16, 2013 @03:35PM (#6395341)
My bad, I should've really explained it better in the opening post.

How I see things going, though of course I could be wrong, is that at home you'll probably just have a monitor, with your KB/Mouse setup of course, and you'll just plug your Surface like device into it.

I think the Console ideology this gen also supports my point somewhat, they didn't go all out for power with a big complicated architecture, they're just using x86 with a low power processor designer.

Plus with the tapering off with graphics gains that we're seeing you'll be able to create a fairly similar experience to the high end on lower power devices, which I think will benefit that type of device.

Also I also think Windows RT was a bad idea, they should've just gone all in with the Surface Pro, which I think is the future honestly.

Re:Gabe Newell: Linux is the future of gaming, new hardware ... by Mikeb85 on Monday September 16, 2013 @03:42PM (#6395399)
This may be the future. Ubuntu is already going this direction, with Ubuntu on Android, Ubuntu mobile, the desktop of course and it's all going to be merged together...
Re:Gabe Newell: Linux is the future of gaming, new hardware ... by jlgreco on Monday September 16, 2013 @04:23PM (#6395643)
Meanwhile, didn't Ubuntu recently, rather publicly, fail a crowdsourcing campaign because they couldn't find enough people who actually care about their mobile proposal? Yeah... I'm just not seeing that stuff as the future.

Maybe this will seem like a very foolish comment in 3 or 4 years, but I doubt it.

Re:Gabe Newell: Linux is the future of gaming, new hardware ... by Mikeb85 on Monday September 16, 2013 @04:58PM (#6395866)
They failed to pre-sell a large amount of expensive smart-phones. This doesn't mean anything concerning Ubuntu's success on phones in general, never mind their place in the computing landscape...
Re:Gabe Newell: Linux is the future of gaming, new hardware ... by jlgreco on Monday September 16, 2013 @05:09PM (#6395931)
That was them putting forward their best effort, right? I mean, they wouldn't intentionally start out with "Plan B"... All of their market research said that plan was the most likely to succeed, so at the very least they demonstrated their inability to accurately judge what people want.

I think the failure of that campaign says a lot more about the viability of Canonical's dreams than many are willing to admit.

Re:Gabe Newell: Linux is the future of gaming, new hardware ... by rlpb on Wednesday September 18, 2013 @12:31PM (#6406242)
The Ubuntu Edge wasn't their primary phone plan. Ubuntu Touch (developer preview) images were already available, for example for the Nexus 4. Ubuntu were already speaking to carriers (http://www.ubuntu.com/phone/carrier-advisory-group) but the Ubuntu Edge had nothing to do with that side of things.
Re:Gabe Newell: Linux is the future of gaming, new hardware ... by Mikeb85 on Monday September 16, 2013 @05:34PM (#6396055)
Had they sourced out a phone they could sell for 400 dollars, and maybe bumped up the delivery time to around Christmas, and used Kickstarter instead of Indiegogo, I think they could have been very successful.

For myself, and I'm sure many others, spending 800 dollars on a product I won't see for nearly a year is a bit too much...

Re:Gabe Newell: Linux is the future of gaming, new hardware ... by Zikes on Monday September 16, 2013 @03:45PM (#6395422)
I think that interfaces aren't necessarily the issue here, as I could easily hook up a PS3 controller or a keyboard + mouse to my current tablet or phone if I wanted to.

I think it will come down to a few things:

1. Price - How much is a Windows 8/8.1 license these days? Why would a games console manufacturer want to bring on that additional cost?

2. Performance - Microsoft is too busy tripping over its own feet and supporting legacy enterprise applications and environments from decades long past to be able to tackle performance issues in a serious manner.[1] There's a reason the Xbone switches from Windows to an "Xbox OS" to run games.

3. Portability - Install a Linux flavor of your choice on your Raspi, phone, tablet, Steambox, Nvidiabox, whatever. The limitations will ultimately be upon the hardware, and the OS can get the heck out of the way and just let the games run.

[1] http://blog.zorinaq.com/?e=74