I found the apps to be puerile, offensive, and inappropriate. That said neither was sexist or misogynistic. It's not like they were called "How Dumb Was She?" or something.

We've come around to the idea that anything crude is sexist and misogynistic and this just isn't the case. That concept in and of itself is sexist, because we (men) assume that women are too delicate to handle this stuff. We haven't stopped telling the dirty jokes at work, we just look over our shoulders to make sure the women aren't around before we do. Which creates an environment of exclusion.

Instead we should just stop telling the dirty jokes at work, because they aren't appropriate for work.

These jerks should never have even CONSIDERED presenting this app, because it's offensive. Offensive to women, men, people with devout religious beliefs, investors who took the time to listen to these presentations, and the list goes on.

The reduction of women to a collection of body parts is often seen as a form of dislike for holistic femaleness -- it robs a person of their humanity. 3rd wave feminism might disagree with this to a point, but the 1st wave certainly wouldn't.

Meanwhile, women in blue collar environments joke about men staring at their breasts, butts, and whatever else, engage in the same sort of rude banter as men, and are generally accepted as strong and capable. At least that is what I have seen at the railroad where my mother works, where women are not demeaned by their coworkers and do not feel that their work environmental is "hostile." Jokes about body parts are a bit immature but they come with the territory in certain lines of work -- and as long as both male and female anatomy get equal time, I do not think one can make a claim that there is some kind of sexism.

Joking about bodies and sex with coworkers you know well is not the same thing as a product built around the concept of staring (presumably lasciviously) at the boobs of strangers.

Basically, it's a question of participation vs. objectification--of being in on the joke vs. being the butt of the joke.

Whose side would Freud be on? See: 'Partial Object', particularly its canonical example.

(My point here is the term, not the man.)

It's misogynistic by that hip, new definition of misogynistic that doesn't mean misogynistic.

> how is looking at tits misogynistic?

The question has been well-covered in a related discussion here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6352595

This sort of debate over word meanings is rarely enlightening. We both agree it's sexist and wrong.

Broadening definitions on the spot to the point of ridiculousness doesn't do any good either.

These two apps were in appropriate and offensive, why not apologize for "two inappropriate and offensive presentations"? While some of the behavior is clearly hate-based (threatening posts on Twitter, etc.), it seems like flat-out stupidity and insensitivity is also very common.

Twitter is the greatest platform for people getting offended on behalf of other people. I bet these armchair warriors will tweet-spam those guys to death.

Not a "challenge" or anything: do you do hackathons? When you know you're not going to win, but also know you're going to be on stage later, an intentionally and blatantly stupid app is the way to go.