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Re:To my daughter's high school programming teacher by kaitai on Monday September 09, 2013 @10:37PM (#6357787)
And that, ladies and gentlemen, is why 16-year-old girls leave programming. Remember, guys ganging up on you and telling them to make them a sandwich is just funny! You're so thin-skinned, ladies! thought police!

http://hoydenabouttown.com/20110218.9512/sexist-joke-bingo/

...almost got bingo... good work, cookiecaper.

Re:To my daughter's high school programming teacher by cookiecaper on Monday September 09, 2013 @10:51PM (#6357846)
I didn't say it was funny or that being offended wasn't an OK response. I simply believe that we should handle potentially "offensive" situations wisely, instead of curling up and quitting. It is more than fine to voice your complaint and indicate that a so-called joke makes you uncomfortable and expect your peers to respect those feelings. It is also an effective requirement to recognize that you aren't always going to be able to get people to stop saying things you don't like, and that you can't let it cripple you.

And I only see hits in two squares on the "sexist joke bingo", not that it matters.

Re:To my daughter's high school programming teacher by azernik on Tuesday September 10, 2013 @12:28PM (#6361077)
kaltai quite specifically called you out for the trope "you're so thin-skinned!". Quoth you:

> But I also think we shouldn't be so thin-skinned that we shrivel up and quit the first time a trite, cliched joke is thrown our way

Re:To my daughter's high school programming teacher by invalidOrTaken on Tuesday September 10, 2013 @08:24AM (#6359536)
Fine members of the audience, I give you the Myers Shuffle.

http://squid314.livejournal.com/329561.html

Will you take the free space kaltai, or can we stop trying to use rhetorical tricks like talking dismissively about(rather than to) and trying to out-meta the other?

Re:To my daughter's high school programming teacher by Dylan16807 on Tuesday September 10, 2013 @01:28AM (#6358346)
>is just funny

Why is it that people misreading comments to call them out almost always come off as bigger asses than the people they're replying to?

Re:To my daughter's high school programming teacher by kaitai on Tuesday September 10, 2013 @09:56AM (#6360015)
The post I was responding to did refer to the sandwich comment as a "joke" and jokes are generally defined to be "funny." I would not consider the sandwich comment a joke, myself, since it doesn't fulfill the criteria I have for a joke, but apparently the poster I was responding to does consider it a joke (even if not one he likes, per se). Thus to the poster it does fulfill the criteria for a joke, whether good or not, and thus it is not inaccurate to rephrase those criteria, including funniness.
Re:To my daughter's high school programming teacher by Dylan16807 on Tuesday September 10, 2013 @05:40PM (#6363701)
The poster characterized it as a joke, but did not say that that excused it. Your reading of the post as defending every aspect of the situation is what I object to.

And unfunny, bad-taste jokes are still jokes. I can talk about the KKK member's standup routine and call his words jokes without saying that I found them funny.

Re:To my daughter's high school programming teacher by serf on Monday September 09, 2013 @11:14PM (#6357939)
that's the most PC thing I've seen all week.

and I mean that in the worst possible way.

Re:To my daughter's high school programming teacher by codygman on Tuesday September 10, 2013 @03:01PM (#6362437)
> Third, "politically correct" is a label principally used by reactionary dullards to dismiss arguments or objections that they see as excessively leftist. It's equivalent to calling someone a commie. Mind you, some people are communists, some people are knee-jerk excessive leftists, etc... but if that's true in a particular situation, you can just explain why it's true. Calling it "political correctness" is just a lowbrow dismissal.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6358263

Re:To my daughter's high school programming teacher by kaitai on Tuesday September 10, 2013 @10:01AM (#6360039)
It's just an easy algorithm for detecting trite arguments! Makes some of these discussion more amusing for those of us who get to hear 'em a lot, and Lord knows we need some amusement.