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Re:The Man Who Would Build a Computer the Size of the Entire... by rwmj on Monday September 09, 2013 @01:43PM (#6354897)
Can someone explain how a little wrapper around LXC gets major magazine articles and hype, whereas the people who've been doing the real hard work for years get no attention at all?
Re:The Man Who Would Build a Computer the Size of the Entire... by WestCoastJustin on Monday September 09, 2013 @01:57PM (#6355021)
Reminded me of the "Linux Hackers Rebuild Internet From Silicon Valley Garage" [1] piece that went around about CoreOS, which was discussed on HN too [2]. In fact, they are both written by the same guy. Personally, these are pretty BOLD headlines, like "Rebuild Internet" and "Build a Computer the Size of the Entire Internet", which I do not think either of them claim and sound ridiculous to me. Docker is not going to build a computer the size of the entire internet, and CoreOS is not rebuilding the internet!

I like Docker, because it automates much of the LXC bits, and adds cool filesystem features. So, do not take my comments the wrong way, but I think articles like this do a disservice since they over hype!

[1] http://www.wired.com/wiredenterprise/2013/08/coreos-the-new-...

[2] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6249724

Re:The Man Who Would Build a Computer the Size of the Entire... by venomsnake on Monday September 09, 2013 @04:05PM (#6355792)
And we got the Russian software that is taking over the internet.

http://www.wired.com/wiredenterprise/2013/09/nginx/

So the internet endgame seems to be One Huge Reinvented Internet in a huge computer running Nginx. It could be worse.

Re:The Man Who Would Build a Computer the Size of the Entire... by breckinloggins on Monday September 09, 2013 @02:34PM (#6355288)
Marketing. Docker demonstrates a clearer value proposition.

Here is the home page of LXC: http://lxc.sourceforge.net/

Here is the home page of Docker: https://www.docker.io/

Reading both should answer this question.

Re:The Man Who Would Build a Computer the Size of the Entire... by mathgladiator on Monday September 09, 2013 @03:19PM (#6355547)
It's also sales; basically putting information in a way that's consumable not just to techies that are knee deep into work, but both non-techies and former techies who are now managers.
Re:The Man Who Would Build a Computer the Size of the Entire... by wmf on Monday September 09, 2013 @02:20PM (#6355192)
AFAIK Docker is LXC + union filesystem layer management + a build system + the repository system + community, so it's not that little. But the real answer is marketing. DotCloud and CoreOS are companies that directly benefit from exposure, so they spend the effort to go out and get that exposure.
Re:The Man Who Would Build a Computer the Size of the Entire... by bitops on Monday September 09, 2013 @02:05PM (#6355073)
I'm not being facetious when I say this: that question is a bit like asking why Ruby on Rails got all the hype when Ruby had been in development since the 1990's.
Re:The Man Who Would Build a Computer the Size of the Entire... by nickstinemates on Monday September 09, 2013 @03:10PM (#6355492)
I don't think it's fair to marginalize the work that the Docker community has put in to it so far by saying another tool is doing all of the hard work. You could go down the stack and always say that about technology. That's what makes it so powerful.

I also would not categorize Docker as a 'little wrapper' around LXC. Sure, Docker uses LXC as a default container provider but it could have just as well have been raw cgroups/network namespaces, libvirt, openvz, or any other abstraction that suits the core abstractions of Docker.

Re:The Man Who Would Build a Computer the Size of the Entire... by Wilya on Monday September 09, 2013 @02:23PM (#6355211)
Because articles and magazines don't magically come and talk about you. You have to work to get them. The people behind LXC don't have or need a PR team. The people behind Docker, on the other hand, do.
Re:The Man Who Would Build a Computer the Size of the Entire... by zacharydanger on Monday September 09, 2013 @01:55PM (#6355007)
Wired is the Cosmo of tech journalism.
Re:The Man Who Would Build a Computer the Size of the Entire... by DavidWanjiru on Friday September 13, 2013 @05:32PM (#6383310)
I read this comment when this story was on the front page, and it's occurred to me ask, what would you consider the antithesis of Wired? You know, something you'd recommend someone read...
Re:The Man Who Would Build a Computer the Size of the Entire... by gonzo on Monday September 09, 2013 @02:11PM (#6355125)
makes a great mousepad.
Re:The Man Who Would Build a Computer the Size of the Entire... by seiji on Monday September 09, 2013 @01:55PM (#6355001)
They really should offer an online course on "Over The Top Hype Generation with Advanced Hyperbole"

Really? "Build a Computer the Size of the Entire Internet" based off LXC containers they're creating an abstraction over?

It's like saying virtualenv can "Build a Computer the Size of the Entire Internet" because you can relocate an entire python program easily.

I love how rabid they are, but self-promotional attention is getting out of hand.

[SELF-CHECK: If you find this article annoying to read, is it because you're jealous of their attention? Are there things you've done that have mattered (or could have mattered) if only other people paid attention? How are you going to get attention next time? Yeah, getting attention this way can seem slimy, icky, unseemly, and feel like outright lies, but they'll be the millionaires and you won't. Gotta get slimy sometime.]

Re:The Man Who Would Build a Computer the Size of the Entire... by pjscott on Monday September 09, 2013 @02:49PM (#6355364)
Have you ever been in the news? I'd bet that most or all of the crazy hyperbole was added by Wired. The Docker guys take a much humbler tone on their web site. Please don't criticize them for over-the-top claims that they had no hand in making.
Re:The Man Who Would Build a Computer the Size of the Entire... by seiji on Monday September 09, 2013 @04:20PM (#6355892)
Old quote: "All of the press hype actually only made convincing them [prospective employees to join] harder to do... there's some sort of weird anti-correlation between press hype and ease of convincing an A-level engineer that your technology is real."
Re:The Man Who Would Build a Computer the Size of the Entire... by AsymetricCom on Monday September 09, 2013 @04:22PM (#6355915)
> Hykes wants to create a standard means of moving software applications across the internet and the world’s private company networks, from machine to machine to machine.

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