Why the NBN needs to go the full way

Re:Why the NBN needs to go the full way by gd1 on Friday September 06, 2013 @02:20AM (#6338975)

Seems fair. Some quick maths says that 200 billion dollars (just you watch it blow out) / 30 million people = roughly $6600 per man, woman and child living in Australia. Probably $12k per taxpayer. Seems fair to make the user pay for a bit of that rather than dump the debt on the next generation. I know people don't like to let little things like numbers intrude on their socialist utopia, but this is real money I'm afraid...

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Re:Why the NBN needs to go the full way by jsmeaton on Friday September 06, 2013 @02:44AM (#6339042)

We already are paying - with our taxes. Not to mention that this is an investment which will pay back to the government. NBNCo will be getting paid for use.

Pay-to-connect isn't available to the users who'd want it most - young people. And I don't just mean unaffordable. If you're renting, good luck convincing your land lord to splash out $4k every time you move.

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Re:Why the NBN needs to go the full way by jacques_chester on Friday September 06, 2013 @05:08AM (#6339408)

> Not to mention that this is an investment which will pay back to the government.

According to NBNCo modelling, which has never been published. We are told that it has been reviewed by Deloitte (as I recall). But we weren't told what Deloitte reviewed, we weren't told what assumptions Deloitte were told to make. You can get an "auditor" to pass anything you want if you control the assumptions of the model.

NBNCo have already had to progressively change their projections for rollout time, rollout penetration and end user takeup. Multiple times. Does this change their model? I am kinda sorta prepared to bet that it does.

This goes back to my personal beef about the very poor transparency and governance of the NBN project.

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Re:Why the NBN needs to go the full way by eru on Friday September 06, 2013 @03:28AM (#6339148)

Just only move to apartments that have the fibre. People are already doing that with windows and bathrooms.

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Re:Why the NBN needs to go the full way by jsmeaton on Friday September 06, 2013 @10:08AM (#6340476)

Funnily enough I just signed a new lease in an apartment that doesn't have fibre. We rejected a place that did have fibre, just down the road.

Bigger apartment with better kitchen, view, facilities, and lower price. There aren't many places connected yet, and it's not looking like many more will be.

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Re:Why the NBN needs to go the full way by Wingman4l7 on Friday September 06, 2013 @03:35AM (#6339165)

That's hardly a reasonable solution -- people have to first consider bigger things like proximity to their place of work, good schools, whether or not pets are allowed, etc.

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Re:Why the NBN needs to go the full way by eru on Friday September 06, 2013 @05:43AM (#6339496)

Sure. For lets of people internet access ranks pretty high, though. And for land lords it's not necessary about getting tenants at all, but being able to charge a premium.

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Re:Why the NBN needs to go the full way by 40 on Friday September 06, 2013 @02:29AM (#6339002)

2K is not much either if you amortize if over a few of years.

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Re:Why the NBN needs to go the full way by pugz on Friday September 06, 2013 @02:33AM (#6339012)

If the FTTP network will blow out to $200B, why won't the FTTN network blow out to $150B?

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Re:Why the NBN needs to go the full way by gd1 on Friday September 06, 2013 @02:40AM (#6339029)

Because it won't be overseen by the most incompetent and corrupt federal government in Australian history?

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