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Re:Developers are the autoworkers of our generation by logn on Monday September 02, 2013 @11:17AM (#6315532)
Yes, programmers keep automating their own work. And we keep trying to find ways to bring in new programmers. But software keeps eating the world. I don't see an end to this. The auto-industry was largely reliant on a very specific vertical.

Also, programmers (unlike auto workers) have not locked in long term benefits that hamstring a company. In fact, we've embraced taking on the risks of the company and staying nimble, hopping around and trying new things. If Google's whole workforce were guaranteed some sort of long term compensation for retirement, we might worry, but their long term promises are only via their stock price.

Re:Developers are the autoworkers of our generation by smk11 on Monday September 02, 2013 @11:50AM (#6315678)
programmers (unlike auto workers) have not locked in long term benefits

This is true in many of the developer communities. But I work for a local government agency as a programmer. So, I have long term benefits and a retirement plan, and I assume there are lots of programmers in this category, they just aren't publicized like the start-up and web community.

I am thankful for the influential programmers that live more risky and work at start ups, but there is also a place for programmers that have a secure job, working at companies/organizations with specialized software. However, I know that many bad workers have been created from these environments...there is always a group that will ruin it for everyone.

Re:Developers are the autoworkers of our generation by michaelt on Monday September 02, 2013 @12:36PM (#6315881)
The vehicle industry covers a lot of verticals. You've got your cars and motorbikes for consumers. Your 18-wheelers that stock large retailers. Your smaller trucks for home deliveries. Pickup trucks and vans for tradespeople. Special logging trucks and refrigerated trucks and vehicle transporters. Backhoes and bulldozers and oil tankers and cranes and RVs and quadbikes. Look around you right now - if it isn't air or water, chances are it travelled on a vehicle to get to you.

And that's just vehicles that travel on the roads, there's also rail air and water vehicles.

Covering a lot of verticals does not exempt you from price competition.