A different way of looking at responsive design: Intention.js

Re:A different way of looking at responsive design: Intentio... by benatkin on Tuesday August 27, 2013 @02:23PM (#6285202)

It sends the User-Agent, which can be used to determine whether it's the desktop or not. It doesn't solve the portrait and landscape changing problem. So some client-side responsive design would still need to be used.

I think a hybrid approach would be too tedious for someone developing a website to do, in order to get the payoff of sending less to mobile browsers, but it may be worth implementing in a framework.

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Re:A different way of looking at responsive design: Intentio... by cheald on Tuesday August 27, 2013 @02:31PM (#6285247)

1) User agents lie. Frequently.

2) A user agent doesn't encode any information about the actual metrics of the device.

Doing layout by user agent is basically a worst-case hellhole of browser-specific codebase fragmentation. There's a very good reason why best practices have been trending away from "test for vendor class" and towards "test for agent capabilities".

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Re:A different way of looking at responsive design: Intentio... by benatkin on Tuesday August 27, 2013 @08:07PM (#6287194)

Well a sufficiently complex framework could deal with it, by making another trip to the server if it discovers the code being sent down the first time isn't good enough.

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Re:A different way of looking at responsive design: Intentio... by untog on Tuesday August 27, 2013 @02:49PM (#6285355)

It sends the User-Agent, which can be used to determine whether it's the desktop or not.

What is "desktop"? An MS Surface Pro would report as a desktop browser, but it's a touch interface. You can also resize the browser window- what then?

So some client-side responsive design would still need to be used.

Which is the point. The server can't know conclusively so why make it try?

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Re:A different way of looking at responsive design: Intentio... by martin-adams on Tuesday August 27, 2013 @02:38PM (#6285283)

The fact that I'm on a desktop does not take into account that my browser window may be smaller than my 'desktop screen'. Responsive is the way to go because it works.

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Re:A different way of looking at responsive design: Intentio... by nostrademons on Tuesday August 27, 2013 @03:12PM (#6285492)

CSS3 media queries can often fulfill the missing link for screen sizes, aspect ratios, etc.

http://www.w3.org/TR/css3-mediaqueries/

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