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Re:Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer to retire within 12 months by erikpukinskis on Friday August 23, 2013 @02:30PM (#6265409)
You have to understand that some of us, who were around and writing code through the 90s, are still a little PTSD about Microsoft. Back then, when Microsoft did control computing, it was easy to wonder if maybe they would control it forever.

It was a shitty period. There was a sense of futility to building software. You could build small software, but as soon as you reached a certain scale, particularly if you were a platform company, Microsoft would decide that they'd like to take your revenue, so they'd box your software out of their operating system with incompatibilities, launch their own competitor, and eat your lunch.

The only sane strategy at the time was to try to anticipate what areas of computing Microsoft would likely never enter. But even that is Russian Roulette.

So, in 2013, yes. It's "obvious" now that Microsoft couldn't have possibly retained the control they had. But many of us have deep recesses in our brain that are still shocked that we got here.

Re:Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer to retire within 12 months by criley2 on Friday August 23, 2013 @05:22PM (#6266322)
"It was a shitty period. There was a sense of futility to building software. You could build small software, but as soon as you reached a certain scale, particularly if you were a platform company, Microsoft would decide that they'd like to take your revenue, so they'd box your software out of their operating system with incompatibilities, launch their own competitor, and eat your lunch."

Sounds like Apple and the 00's.

http://www.maclife.com/article/feature/complete_itunes_histo...

The thing is, since Apple releases so many new features and software with updates while Microsoft leaves unfinished, crappy software for a decade, you can find dozens of stories like this about Apple.

So many of their default features were popular third party programs that got rebuilt by Apple in-house.

Who will be the MSFT of the '10s, I wonder.

Re:Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer to retire within 12 months by erikpukinskis on Saturday August 24, 2013 @01:41AM (#6267787)
The difference is that you can ignore Apple completely and still build a massive, massive software company. Just build a web app, or an Android app.

When Windows was the only game in town, that was not true.

Re:Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer to retire within 12 months by saraid216 on Friday August 23, 2013 @07:33PM (#6266830)
> Who will be the MSFT of the '10s, I wonder.

I thought Google had already established themselves there by pulling all the free APIs that people had built businesses on top of.

Re:Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer to retire within 12 months by marcosdumay on Friday August 23, 2013 @11:19PM (#6267461)
Except that Apple controls around 6% of the desktop PCs and 20% of the mobile PCs. MS controlled 99% of the PCs at the time, and I'm rounding it down.
Re:Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer to retire within 12 months by scholia on Sunday August 25, 2013 @08:01PM (#6274324)
At one time, IBM controlled around 70% of the whole IT business, probably more. Mainframes, minis, comms, switchboards, typewriters. IBM even ran its own bank (IBM Credit Corp).

Microsoft happened to steal a very small part of IBM's monopoly, which got bigger over time, but IBM's revenues are still bigger than Microsoft's even 32 years later. (And IBM has been spinning off or selling whole businesses along the way, eg the PC business to Lenovo; spinning off Lexmark).

I was talking to one US corporate IT manager who said IBM was still a third of his budget cf 3% for Microsoft.

Big picture: Microsoft's monopoly has always been much smaller and less powerful than the IBM monopoly used to be. However, in time, all tech monopolies tend to get largely undone by new technologies.

Re:Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer to retire within 12 months by gdy on Friday August 23, 2013 @02:37PM (#6265449)
What software exactly have been boxed out of their operating system with incompatibilities?
Re:Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer to retire within 12 months by erikpukinskis on Friday August 23, 2013 @02:58PM (#6265596)
Well, I guess I meant to include both Windows and Office in that statement. Samba, WordPerfect, and Netscape are good examples.

Although in the case of Netscape, they just coerced all of the OEMs not to include it.

Re:Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer to retire within 12 months by pjmlp on Saturday August 24, 2013 @02:28AM (#6267879)
However, many like WordPerfect were just doing dumb business decisions that led them out of business.

http://www.wordplace.com/ap/

Microsoft did not have to do much with this type of competition.

Re:Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer to retire within 12 months by scholia on Sunday August 25, 2013 @08:03PM (#6274327)
Netscape also put itself out of business by arrogance and making dumb decisions, plus some very poor programming.
Re:Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer to retire within 12 months by gdy on Saturday August 24, 2013 @01:49PM (#6269261)
Samba hasn't been boxed out to be replaced by Microsoft own software. Do you have any kind of proof for your claim about WordPerfect and Netscape?
Re:Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer to retire within 12 months by cgh on Friday August 23, 2013 @04:52PM (#6266191)
Excellent post that captures my feelings precisely. I worked for a MS "partner" whose product integrated with BizTalk (I know, right?) A big part of our strategy was trying to keep MS from locking us out once we became successful. Eventually we got bought out and the product was killed.

Around 2000, Linux was on the scene and like a lot of people I got the hell out of the MS ecosystem and never looked back.

Re:Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer to retire within 12 months by gdy on Saturday August 24, 2013 @01:44PM (#6269242)
Why was it killed? What was the Microsoft's replacement for it?