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Re:Don't Fly During Ramadan by DannyBee on Thursday August 22, 2013 @03:19PM (#6259425)
"I don't think his treatment was in any way justified by setting off an explosive materials detector."

He set it off multiple times. It is likely you didn't. He could not provide current id, anything that showed his current address, anything to prove any part of his story, etc.

Any attempt to prove any part of his story was met with no available info. His answers were plausible, but again, there was simply nothing concrete he could provide to explain anything.

I can understand the amount of questioning and length of time he was put through. I cannot understand the denial of water/etc.

Re:Don't Fly During Ramadan by jarek on Thursday August 22, 2013 @09:02PM (#6261102)
"id" means identification. Your identity doesn't change just because you move. He had "id" just fine. It just didn't have his two-day-old address on it.
Re:Don't Fly During Ramadan by DannyBee on Friday August 23, 2013 @12:46AM (#6261770)
I understand what ID means. You are suppose to report address changes, and in most states, you usually only get 10 days or less to do so. Ignoring that for a second, what you have attempted to refute is not the sum total of the issue here.

The thing is, at every turn there was just a coincidental reason something happened to turn out that way. If you don't think this looks highly suspicious on someone whose hands and bag seems to keep setting off explosive detectors, i don't know what to tell you.

If they aren't supposed to target the people with odd stories who set off explosive detectors, who exactly are they supposed to be targeting?

Re:Don't Fly During Ramadan by jarek on Friday August 23, 2013 @12:57AM (#6261790)
I do not think moving within 10 days of taking a flight is an "odd" story, but I don't think any further discussion will go anywhere.
Re:Don't Fly During Ramadan by DannyBee on Friday August 23, 2013 @12:48PM (#6264712)
Could you at least answer who you believe they are supposed to be targeting if not people who set off explosive detectors and can't provide concrete evidence of anything they say?
Re:Don't Fly During Ramadan by jarek on Friday August 23, 2013 @06:19PM (#6266551)
Claims made by OP that had been backed up:

- "My name is ___" (ID)

- "Until two days ago I lived at NYU" (NYU ID)

- "Previously, I lived at $address" (ID)

Thousands of people in the U.S. fly without business cards or ID listing their current addresses. University students are just one obvious example. This simply isn't uncommon. If you want to target that, you might as well target retirees or snowbirds. Of course, you wouldn't, since you profile based on demographics, ethnicity, etc, in addition to merely not having a current piece of ID or a work phone number.

Explosive detector results, sure. So determine it was a false positive and let them go. It doesn't take 3.5 hours to verify a person and their bag don't have any actual explosives on them. The amount of questioning was not warranted.