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Re:Bradley Manning's Post-Sentencing Statement by jfoutz on Wednesday August 21, 2013 @08:06PM (#6254166)
More likely, it's easy to convince a teenager. "yeah, there may be a few rogues out in the middle of a war zone. There are hundreds of thousands that serve with honor, and those that don't will be punished. Please sign here.
Re:Bradley Manning's Post-Sentencing Statement by graycat on Wednesday August 21, 2013 @09:50PM (#6254608)
One view of the military recruiting teenagers is that the military exploits the fact that a large fraction of teenagers are really eager to belong to something.
Re:Bradley Manning's Post-Sentencing Statement by anigbrowl on Thursday August 22, 2013 @12:35AM (#6255194)
If that's your argument, then we shouldn't trust them with the ability to vote, enter into contracts, or get married.
Re:Bradley Manning's Post-Sentencing Statement by praptak on Thursday August 22, 2013 @03:56AM (#6255764)
Only if we start from the premise that there is no middle ground between totally infallible and too stupid to take any responsibility.
Re:Bradley Manning's Post-Sentencing Statement by graycat on Thursday August 22, 2013 @08:38AM (#6256708)
I meant teenage boys. Okay, you have a really nice daughter, cute, sweet, pretty, darling, adorable, precious, a girl you have never been able to say "No" to, who has had you wrapped around her little finger since she was six months old, great student, cooks, sews, plays piano, great babysitter, loves kids, popular, etc. and at 16 falls in love with a boy 18 and wants to get married. You "trust" him with your daughter?

That little scenario aside, the claim in my statement is that the military doesn't just use the strong desire of teenage boys to be members of groups but exploits it. The exploitation is in basic training, etc.

It's a manipulation.

For voting, entering into contracts, and usually even marriage, the role of manipulation is usually much lower and the consequences less deadly.

Re:Bradley Manning's Post-Sentencing Statement by jlgreco on Wednesday August 21, 2013 @08:14PM (#6254205)
Absolutely, though I'd consider such naive trusting to fall somewhere in the general neighborhood of "living under a rock".
Re:Bradley Manning's Post-Sentencing Statement by philangist on Wednesday August 21, 2013 @11:42PM (#6255007)
Or being 18 years old ;)