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Re:Google Fiber Continues Awful ISP Tradition of Banning “Se... by baddox on Monday August 12, 2013 @04:28PM (#6201580)
> Which is why they should be legally forbidden from advertising that they are slling 1 Gbit of unlimited-use bandwidth.

They're not advertising that. The closest thing they say on their web page is "no data caps," which doesn't imply that you can use the connection to run any service you please. Besides, I'm willing to bet that they have more detailed terms of service that must be agreed upon before receiving service.

Re:Google Fiber Continues Awful ISP Tradition of Banning “Se... by mikeash on Monday August 12, 2013 @04:50PM (#6201791)
While obviously intended to only be meaningless marketing speech, I'd say that the "endless possibilities" on their main page ought to imply that you can, in fact, run any service you please.

We know they don't mean that, and they know we know they don't mean that, but I don't think we should let companies get away with lies like that just because everybody's used to the lying.

Re:Google Fiber Continues Awful ISP Tradition of Banning “Se... by praxulus on Monday August 12, 2013 @05:40PM (#6202243)
Actually, if you want to interpret "endless possibilities" literally, that still doesn't indicate you can use it however you wish. Sets can be infinite in size without containing everything there is.
Re:Google Fiber Continues Awful ISP Tradition of Banning “Se... by Amadou on Monday August 12, 2013 @05:48PM (#6202307)
"Endless" literally means without an end. Servers are a very explicit end.
Re:Google Fiber Continues Awful ISP Tradition of Banning “Se... by danellis on Monday August 12, 2013 @06:28PM (#6202600)
Imagine the integers were all the things you could do with the service. Imagine that those odd ones involved hosting a server, while the even ones didn't. The set of even numbers is limitless, even though it excludes all the odd numbers.
Re:Google Fiber Continues Awful ISP Tradition of Banning “Se... by Amadou on Monday August 12, 2013 @06:31PM (#6202613)
So what? If we are going to be pedants about the literal definition of endless then coming up with mathematical analogies is not in the spirit of pedantry. Limitless may be a definition of endless but it is not the only definition.

edit: Wow, down-voted for out pedanting the pedants. That's some cognitive dissonance there.

Re:Google Fiber Continues Awful ISP Tradition of Banning “Se... by danellis on Friday August 16, 2013 @03:44AM (#6222686)
I wasn't being pedantic; I was merely explaining praxulus's point.
Re:Google Fiber Continues Awful ISP Tradition of Banning “Se... by Amadou on Friday August 16, 2013 @06:13AM (#6223122)
I fully understood his point and acknowledged it as pedancy.
Re:Google Fiber Continues Awful ISP Tradition of Banning “Se... by ZoF on Monday August 12, 2013 @08:58PM (#6203357)
Yeah, for that matter, why can't I fly like a bird and shit rainbows once I buy fiber? Google's clearly being malicious here with that slogan.
Re:Google Fiber Continues Awful ISP Tradition of Banning “Se... by derleth on Monday August 12, 2013 @07:04PM (#6202799)
> "no data caps,"

What, if anything, does this mean to you?

Re:Google Fiber Continues Awful ISP Tradition of Banning “Se... by baddox on Tuesday August 13, 2013 @02:12PM (#6207261)
To me, that means that the total amount transferred is not capped, if that type of transfer is otherwise allowed by the terms of service. Of course, one can interpret that literally and show that it's clearly not true, since you're capped by your maximum transfer speed, but I think in practice the idea is that the ISP will never say "you are transferring too much bandwidth so we are charging more, canceling service, etc."