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Re:Snowden's Asylum: 'It's the law, stupid' by bausson on Thursday August 08, 2013 @07:28AM (#6178254)
Sure, US played a huge role in freeing Europe from Nazism.

Which doesn't mean they played a bigger role in it that URSS.

EDIT: >> However I am grateful I am from a country that fell under US influnce than one that fell under USSR influence.

As a Western European, I can relate. I am just pointing that picking WW2 intervention is not the best way to crown US over URSS.

Re:Snowden's Asylum: 'It's the law, stupid' by tome on Thursday August 08, 2013 @07:31AM (#6178258)
That is indeed true. However I am grateful I am from a country that fell under US influnce than one that fell under USSR influence. YMMV. Still, many of those who are now lauding Russia here will actually be glad they didn't grow up in the former Eastern Bloc, and that strikes me as a somewhat inconsistent viewpoint.
Re:Snowden's Asylum: 'It's the law, stupid' by tome on Thursday August 08, 2013 @07:43AM (#6178288)
Not sure why you edited your post rather than replying to mine, but ... [EDIT: Perhaps it's because the 'reply' link seems to take a while to appear. If so I always get around that by clicking on 'link' and then replying there!]

> As a Western European, I can relate. I am just pointing that picking WW2 intervention is not the best way to crown US over URSS.

It's not the intervention per se, but the spirit of the intervention, what its aims were and what it led to. Those of the US were far superior to those of the USSR from my point of view.

Re:Snowden's Asylum: 'It's the law, stupid' by bausson on Thursday August 08, 2013 @07:52AM (#6178319)
Couldn't find the reply button (new account, first post, after two years as a leacher)

With my limited knowledge in history, I can't objectively compare the spirit/motivations of USA/URSS intervention.

Also, being raised in Western europe, I may be prejudicied, because of the "winners write history" stuff.

Re:Snowden's Asylum: 'It's the law, stupid' by mpyne on Thursday August 08, 2013 @10:15AM (#6179007)
> Also, being raised in Western europe, I may be prejudicied, because of the "winners write history" stuff.

That doesn't invalidate the possibility that the winners might have actually been in the right though. It just means you cann't use the fact that a nation won to implicate that the nation was therefore morally right.

Re:Snowden's Asylum: 'It's the law, stupid' by gadders on Thursday August 08, 2013 @09:02AM (#6178587)
Well, the big difference is is that the US didn't retain defacto control of the part of Europe that it drove the Nazis from in the way the USSR did.