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Re:Darwin validated: Missing link found by SamAtt on Tuesday May 19, 2009 @05:38PM (#617684)
I understand you were joking but there's a grain of truth in what you're saying. People who don't believe in Evolution are looking for holes in the theory and those holes will always exist. Because no matter how many fossils we do find they can always claim there were ones we didn't find that co-existed with humans. So the anti-evolution crowd will always have all the grounds they need to not believe.

Part of the sick beauty of Creationism is that there's no way to prove it wrong (though I'd argue that's largely because it's based on no real facts in the first place)

Re:Darwin validated: Missing link found by tdavis on Tuesday May 19, 2009 @09:56PM (#617956)
Part of the sick beauty of Creationism is that there's no way to prove it wrong

It's not that you could never prove Creationism wrong, it's that faith is not required to be proven. That's why it is called faith. People who believe in God are going to believe in God, even if you could irrefutably prove beyond any doubt that (a) evolutionary theory is correct and (b) God doesn't exist.

You'd still have failed to prove it in their "heart", or wherever pure, unadulterated illogicality happens to live.

Re:Darwin validated: Missing link found by petercollins on Wednesday May 20, 2009 @02:26PM (#619022)
Absoluely right. The rubric of "faith" admits of every illogicality because its premise is the very admission of unprovables
Re:Darwin validated: Missing link found by cglee on Wednesday May 20, 2009 @01:12AM (#618134)
Can you believe in God and evolution at the same time?
Re:Darwin validated: Missing link found by Raphael_Amiard on Wednesday May 20, 2009 @03:30AM (#618235)
Depends on who you're talking to
Re:Darwin validated: Missing link found by tdavis on Wednesday May 20, 2009 @02:13PM (#618996)
That's a silly question. You can believe whatever you want.
Re:Darwin validated: Missing link found by cglee on Wednesday May 20, 2009 @05:53PM (#619409)
I guess I meant the question to be read in a more Socratic manner, rather it being a genuine question.
Re:Darwin validated: Missing link found by TrevorJ on Wednesday May 20, 2009 @01:47PM (#618947)
I think a lot of people do.
Re:Darwin validated: Missing link found by Devilboy on Wednesday May 20, 2009 @01:59AM (#618164)
Depends on which god you're talking about.
Re:Darwin validated: Missing link found by twoz on Tuesday May 19, 2009 @06:17PM (#617735)
There are those who have split the theory in two: micro vs. macro evolution.

http://www.ridgecrest.ca.us/~do_while/sage/v1i4f.htm

Some people who have normally shunned the entire concept of the evolution theory in the past have now integrated micro-evolution into their belief systems yet vehemently oppose macro-evolution.

No matter which path you take (creationism vs evolution), I guess it's just turtles all the way down. ;)

Re:Darwin validated: Missing link found by jballanc on Wednesday May 20, 2009 @01:15AM (#618135)
No matter which path you take (creationism vs evolution), I guess it's just turtles all the way down.

This is incorrect. With creationism/ID, it is expected that you do not question the nature of the creator/designer beyond what information is provided in texts or by religious/ideological leaders. With evolution, the principles are based on math and chemistry, which is in turn based on physics, which is currently being probed down to the smallest scales possible. (Contrary to what you might have been told, there is a lower limit to physics.)

Re:Darwin validated: Missing link found by twoz on Wednesday May 20, 2009 @11:34AM (#618704)
Contrary to what you might have been told, there is a lower limit to physics.

I agree. But...

There is no limit to the determination of people defending their beliefs against any theory for which science provides evidence.

    Creationista Lisp v1.0

    CL-BELIEVER> (= evidence truth)
    nil
Re:Darwin validated: Missing link found by petercollins on Wednesday May 20, 2009 @02:31PM (#619036)
Yeehaa. And their beliefs reside in yesterday's rubbish - and always will until the new order comes.
Re:Darwin validated: Missing link found by tybris on Wednesday May 20, 2009 @06:15AM (#618311)
It's quarks all the way down.