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Re:Crossbar Resistive RAM stores a terabyte on a chip by joe_the_user on Monday August 05, 2013 @10:03PM (#6164444)
I remember memristers were supposed to do something like this.

Anyone have an idea if this is related or unrelated.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memristor

Re:Crossbar Resistive RAM stores a terabyte on a chip by wmf on Monday August 05, 2013 @10:44PM (#6164541)
Memristors are HP's variant of RRAM.
Re:Crossbar Resistive RAM stores a terabyte on a chip by pfraze on Monday August 05, 2013 @10:24PM (#6164495)
As I understand it, one of the (more interesting) characteristics of memristors is that they can do computation. They don't mention anything like that here, so I doubt it.
Re:Crossbar Resistive RAM stores a terabyte on a chip by Tuna-Fish on Tuesday August 06, 2013 @06:40AM (#6165785)
A memristor can be set up as a logic element that does computation, or as a memory storage element, just like a transistor (only persistent).

For some strange reason, the tech press took this to mean that a memristor array can be dynamically reconfigured to act as logic or ram in the same device. This is mostly false -- while yes, this kind of devices can be built (with transistors, they are typically called field-programmable gate arrays, or FPGAs), this requires you to be able to reconfigure not just the gates, but all the wiring that goes into them, meaning that a reconfigurable array has to be more than an order of magnitude larger, and a few times slower than a non-reconfigurable one.

You never want to use an FPGA for ram because you can get proper, non-reconfigurable ram for (way) less than tenth of the cost. You never want to use a fpga for logic if you can afford an asic, because you can be several times faster with hard-baked logic.

Memristors will mean nice FPGAs that retain state on power down, but they will not mean a revolution of dynamically reconfiguring devices.

Oh, and memristor logic is slower than transistor logic (you can do with less gates, but the gates switch slower) so the ability to use memristors for logic elements will initially mostly be a win in memory devices where the necessary logic to manage the device can be made out of the same structures the device is made of.

Re:Crossbar Resistive RAM stores a terabyte on a chip by pfraze on Tuesday August 06, 2013 @09:15AM (#6166352)
Thanks for clearing that up.
Re:Crossbar Resistive RAM stores a terabyte on a chip by ars on Monday August 05, 2013 @11:06PM (#6164583)
A memristor can do computation, but you don't have to do computation.

Like like a regular transistor can be used for computation or ram.

Re:Crossbar Resistive RAM stores a terabyte on a chip by standel on Monday August 05, 2013 @10:35PM (#6164518)
Memristor do no computation at all. It follows the same idea as the described RRAM. High density, low cost, persistent, low power consumption, high write/read throughput, low latency. To the exception that it could even replace RAM, not only nand devices. I don't remember of the top of my head reading performance but it was clearly closer to RAM levels.
Re:Crossbar Resistive RAM stores a terabyte on a chip by bloaf on Monday August 05, 2013 @10:57PM (#6164571)
"Another possible application of memristors is logic circuits. Memristors can be used in hybrid CMOS-memristor circuits, or as a standalone logic gate. One notable logic application is using memristors in an FPGA, as configurable switches, connecting the CMOS logic gates."

http://www.ece.rochester.edu/users/friedman/papers/ChipEx_11...

Re:Crossbar Resistive RAM stores a terabyte on a chip by jotm on Monday August 05, 2013 @10:17PM (#6164483)
Well, hopefully some competition will prompt Hynix to get the ball rolling, instead of just squeezing the last dollars out of current flash technology...
Re:Crossbar Resistive RAM stores a terabyte on a chip by i_am_dead on Tuesday August 06, 2013 @12:34AM (#6164809)
These are memristors.