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Re:DOJ Calls for Apple to End Book Deals, Link to Rival Book... by voodoo123 on Friday August 02, 2013 @06:01PM (#6149950)
Perhaps, but it's an insane solution in a competitive environment where the other major players have actual monopolies and are using predatory pricing to enter other markets.

Apple has clearly overreached, but this kind of remedy is not about restoring competition.

Re:DOJ Calls for Apple to End Book Deals, Link to Rival Book... by dragonwriter on Friday August 02, 2013 @07:48PM (#6150354)
> Apple has clearly overreached, but this kind of remedy is not about restoring competition.

This is about Apple using its retail outlet to advance and profit from a conspiracy among publishers to jointly set the terms on which they sold to retailers, including retail price fixing as the key focus. Insofar as it is about "restoring competition", its about restoring the need for publishers to each seek separately to make the best deals with retailers, rather than unilaterally imposing common terms. (This affects retail prices, but its not about retail competition.)

The remedies which benefit other retailers aren't about restoring competition, per se, they are about remedying the harms done by Apple's unlawful activity to other market participants. In Amazon's case, that also happens to reward the incumbent major player, but then, Amazon was the primary target of the illegal conspiracy. So this is not inappropriate.

As to your allegations against Amazon, if one assumes they are true, they might be a basis for anti-trust action against Amazon, but they aren't an argument for limiting the remedies imposed on Apple for conspiring with publishers in a price-fixing scheme.

Re:DOJ Calls for Apple to End Book Deals, Link to Rival Book... by jolohaga on Friday August 02, 2013 @10:18PM (#6150787)
I think the conspiracy is really correcting a wrong. The publishers felt they made a mistake giving Amazon so much leverage, so early in the development of e-commerce. To assume that all e-commerce should develop in the open web model is ludicrous. This has to be obvious to some in Washington.
Re:DOJ Calls for Apple to End Book Deals, Link to Rival Book... by revelation on Friday August 02, 2013 @11:15PM (#6150937)
"The publishers" is not a group of happy friends. They are in the same market, they should be each others greatest enemy. The moment thats not the case, you can be sure there will be an anti-trust investigation. Anti-trust isn't about whats right or wrong or visionary or faulty, it's not even about whose responsibility it really is, if their actions created a situation where competition subsided and prices raised, theres damage and fault.
Re:DOJ Calls for Apple to End Book Deals, Link to Rival Book... by MBCook on Friday August 02, 2013 @11:35PM (#6150996)
> The moment thats not the case, you can be sure there will be an anti-trust investigation.

That was the case, there was an investigation. All the publishers quickly settled because they were caught colluding to use Apple to force Amazon to switch sales models.

Re:DOJ Calls for Apple to End Book Deals, Link to Rival Book... by revelation on Saturday August 03, 2013 @07:43PM (#6153850)
You need to read the emails cited in the case. Apple was acting as ring leader, the publishers didn't get the idea and then used Apple.
Re:DOJ Calls for Apple to End Book Deals, Link to Rival Book... by voodoo123 on Saturday August 03, 2013 @12:16AM (#6151088)
If the remedies are structural ones designed to cripple Apple's ability to compete on a level playing field, they certainly is an argument for limiting them.

If Apple is forced to sell Amazon's books, Amazon should be forced to sell Apple's books on the e-ink Kindle.

The argument that Apple did something wrong therefore a destructive remedy is justified is absurd because it harms consumers even further by damaging the competitive market even more.