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Re:Facial scrubs polluting Great Lakes with plastic by bluedino on Friday August 02, 2013 @09:39AM (#6146787)
I don't think enough is being done to protect the Great Lakes. They are the largest source of fresh water in the entire world.

They've been over-fished, the industries of the surrounding area polluted the living hell out of them up until the 1970's, they've been invade by Zebra mussels and the water levels are at record lows. Places I swam as a kid don't even exist any more - the water has moved out a hundred yards from the old shore.

Re:Facial scrubs polluting Great Lakes with plastic by TylerE on Friday August 02, 2013 @09:43AM (#6146803)
Lake Baikal is actually a bit bigger... 5700mi^3 versus 5400mi^3 for all the great lakes. It's a good bit smaller in surface area, but it's extraordinarily deep...over a mile in places.
Re:Facial scrubs polluting Great Lakes with plastic by astrodust on Friday August 02, 2013 @12:55PM (#6148113)
Baikal has a volume of 23,615.39 km³, the Great Lakes is 22,671 km³ for those that use standard units.
Re:Facial scrubs polluting Great Lakes with plastic by madaxe on Friday August 02, 2013 @02:09PM (#6148620)
I was going to say this too. Drove over it. Amazing place.
Re:Facial scrubs polluting Great Lakes with plastic by derekp7 on Friday August 02, 2013 @12:52PM (#6148098)
When I was a kid the big problem was the lake water rising (at least with Lake Michigan). I remember walking down what was left of an eroding lake front road, and seeing a bunch of septic tanks out in the water. That is where houses once stood.
Re:Facial scrubs polluting Great Lakes with plastic by corresation on Friday August 02, 2013 @01:10PM (#6148195)
They've been over-fished, the industries of the surrounding area polluted the living hell out of them up until the 1970's, they've been invade by Zebra mussels and the water levels are at record lows.

Fisheries adapted. Pollution has seen a massive decline. The zebra mussel...well that's nature, and as much as can be done about it has been done, but you can't really stop nature. As to water levels --

http://www.waterlevels.gc.ca/C&A/NetworkMeans2013.pdf

-- it's at a low ebb right now, but isn't at record lows at all. If you have memories of much higher levels, those were likely historic highs.

Plenty is being done for the Great Lakes. More can be done, but pointing back at the 70s doesn't demonstrate that things aren't being done today.

Re:Facial scrubs polluting Great Lakes with plastic by toomuchtodo on Friday August 02, 2013 @02:48PM (#6148833)
Unless you're calling dumping your ballast tanks "nature", no, zebra mussels are not nature. They're species contamination caused by people.
Re:Facial scrubs polluting Great Lakes with plastic by moheeb on Friday August 02, 2013 @03:38PM (#6149170)
I think a lot of us are calling that nature.
Re:Facial scrubs polluting Great Lakes with plastic by sneak on Friday August 02, 2013 @09:43AM (#6146802)
Protect them from what?
Re:Facial scrubs polluting Great Lakes with plastic by astrodust on Friday August 02, 2013 @12:55PM (#6148119)
Idiotic comments like this.
Re:Facial scrubs polluting Great Lakes with plastic by sneak on Friday August 02, 2013 @02:36PM (#6148768)
No, I'm serious. None of the things he listed as observing are harmful to the lakes, they are just inconvenient for people.

How exactly, and what from, do they need to be protected?

Also: why the ad hominem? There was nothing idiotic about my simple question.

Stop downvoting and answer the question.

Re:Facial scrubs polluting Great Lakes with plastic by Groxx on Friday August 02, 2013 @03:35PM (#6149145)
You mean like these?

>over-fished, ... polluted the living hell out of them

Zebra mussels you might be able to claim damage the lake, but the complaints against them are certainly primarily based on nuisance, so I'll exclude them.

Re:Facial scrubs polluting Great Lakes with plastic by wooster on Friday August 02, 2013 @07:31PM (#6150313)

  Since zebra mussels became established in Lake Erie, 
  water clarity has increased from 6 inches to 30 feet 
  in some areas. … One drastic impact of the zebra mussel
  invasion is the near extinction of native American 
  unionid clams in Lake St. Clair and in the western 
  basin of Lake Erie.
http://www.glsc.usgs.gov/_files/factsheets/2000-6%20Zebra%20...
Re:Facial scrubs polluting Great Lakes with plastic by astrodust on Friday August 02, 2013 @02:41PM (#6148797)
Protect the lakes from the sorts of abuses they suffered on a massive scale prior to modern environmental regulations were enforced, and from additional threats like microplastics, fertilizer run-off, sewage, contamination from watercraft, future outbreaks of invasive species transported by ocean-going shipping vessels, large-scale diversion for irrigation or urban water consumption, and a host of other things.

The way you asked it was like "What problems?" when it's obvious that a water-system that vast needs controls or it'll be abused and ruined for everyone.