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Re:Intel's first 'open-source PC' on sale for $199 by jzawodn on Wednesday July 31, 2013 @10:19AM (#6133818)
Wow, is it just me or is Intel missing the market on this one? The price is about 4x too high for what you get (compared to other ARM based boards) and the size is a little big as well.

Who is this really aimed at, anyway?

Re:Intel's first 'open-source PC' on sale for $199 by Arnor on Wednesday July 31, 2013 @11:04AM (#6134191)
Apparently their market is developers who don't own computers:

> However, the MinnowBoard is still cheaper than most PCs and could appeal to developers looking to write and test commercial applications before they're deployed in servers, embedded devices and other computers.

I'm baffled as to why anyone would purchase this board. Raspberry Pi[1] destroys it on price/value so _will_ Parallella[2]. Why not wait a couple months and get a super computer![3]

[1] http://www.raspberrypi.org/ [2] http://www.parallella.org/ [3] Why do I think anyone here needs these links?

Re:Intel's first 'open-source PC' on sale for $199 by ajross on Wednesday July 31, 2013 @02:31PM (#6135875)
The RPi isn't really comparable. The Minnowboard is a much (much!) more capable piece of hardware. Maybe 3-4x as fast at typical CPU tasks, 2-4x the DRAM, gigabit ethernet, PVR SGX vs. that weird Broadcom thing in the Pi.

Is it worth 6x the price? Certainly not for all uses (and I'll admit I'm disappointed to see this thing launch at $200 too). But there are tasks for which this board would work where the RPi wouldn't. And there it competes most directly with things like the Pandaboard, against which it appears to compete pretty well.

Re:Intel's first 'open-source PC' on sale for $199 by yareally on Wednesday July 31, 2013 @12:46PM (#6135059)
> However, the MinnowBoard is still cheaper than most PCs and could appeal to developers looking to write and test commercial applications before they're deployed in servers, embedded devices and other computers.

Relying on having spare computers for testing is also kind of a thing of the past in the age of cheap PC resources and virtual machines. I gave up keeping old computers around for software testing 5-6 years ago when I bought my first 4 core CPU. Also keeps my work area from getting really really hot in the summer.

Re:Intel's first 'open-source PC' on sale for $199 by rdouble on Wednesday July 31, 2013 @02:35PM (#6135898)
Seems comparable to the Beagleboard, though.
Re:Intel's first 'open-source PC' on sale for $199 by anigbrowl on Wednesday July 31, 2013 @04:24PM (#6136590)
I'm baffled as to why anyone would purchase this board.

Because it's small enough to be useful but a hell of a lot less work to get started on. I would much rather use this for a personal project (not a product) than spend a year learning a new architecture.

Re:Intel's first 'open-source PC' on sale for $199 by sciurus on Wednesday July 31, 2013 @01:04PM (#6135179)
Re:Intel's first 'open-source PC' on sale for $199 by walshemj on Wednesday July 31, 2013 @11:08AM (#6134238)
lets be honest the number of "developers" who can't afford a proper PC is trivial in the USA just buy a newish pc second hand one ebay.
Re:Intel's first 'open-source PC' on sale for $199 by astrodust on Wednesday July 31, 2013 @11:28AM (#6134414)
You could probably find a computer better than this in the trash, some old Pentium 4 with 2GB of memory.
Re:Intel's first 'open-source PC' on sale for $199 by Someone on Wednesday July 31, 2013 @06:56PM (#6137367)
Unless you want something more power efficient. http://www.minnowboard.org/static/pdfs/Getting%20Started%20w... says this runs from 5V, 2.5A. That's 12.5W. Quite a lot for mobile, but a Pentium 4 CPU alone will use at least four times that (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_CPU_power_dissipation_f...), for a < 2GHz variant.
Re:Intel's first 'open-source PC' on sale for $199 by yitchelle on Wednesday July 31, 2013 @11:14AM (#6134283)
Are these "PC" only for sale in the US?
Re:Intel's first 'open-source PC' on sale for $199 by rjsw on Wednesday July 31, 2013 @10:45AM (#6134015)
Yeah, why buy an x86 board with an undocumented GPU when there are plenty of ARM boards with undocumented GPUs available.
Re:Intel's first 'open-source PC' on sale for $199 by mjolk on Wednesday July 31, 2013 @11:16AM (#6134301)
I think the fact that it's an x86 board makes it an attractive first step from Intel into the super-small form factor market -- not that I'd buy an Atom-based snail when I already have a Raspberry-pi turtle at home.
Re:Intel's first 'open-source PC' on sale for $199 by chipsy on Wednesday July 31, 2013 @01:07PM (#6135207)
They might not be cost-competitive. Intel's process advantage comes from vertical integration. But it also means that they need to keep pushing out high-margin flagship products to support their scale of operations and technology advantage. A niche thing like this is likely to get thrown under the bus internally, but they can't ignore the pressure from below and the deteriorating PC market anymore.

In contrast, the ARM ecosystem has flexibility to mix and match the design, manufacturing and marketing amongst a group of companies. This is why a lot of people are confident about ARM's fortunes in coming years; the business model favors them in a "cheaper is better" computing market.

Re:Intel's first 'open-source PC' on sale for $199 by shawabawa3 on Wednesday July 31, 2013 @10:25AM (#6133871)
My guess is schools and universities, who will buy in bulk at massive discounts.
Re:Intel's first 'open-source PC' on sale for $199 by yitchelle on Wednesday July 31, 2013 @10:40AM (#6133977)
OK, why are they discriminating the rest of the maker, hacker, tinker, population by pricing it so high? They need to take a page of the play book from one of the ARM board folks.