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Re:Why we're doing things that don't scale by HNJohnC on Thursday July 25, 2013 @11:47AM (#6103003)
Is this a new writing style I'm unaware of or just plain laziness?

Get to the point blog writers!

Make your assertion clearly and right at the top, explain it if it could be misconstrued so that we know what the hell is being discussed.

Then go on to write about it.

It seems like every second blog post linked to here is a long rambling missive that only reveals the point somewhere minutes into reading it long after my eyes have glazed over.

Re:Why we're doing things that don't scale by SkyMarshal on Thursday July 25, 2013 @01:05PM (#6103474)
Yes, assume your reader has just woken up and has 20+ tabs open they're trying to speed-read through before they finish their bagel and coffee and rush off to work. They want the firehose, not Dostoyevsky.

Good rule of thumb for this kind of audience - invert your essay structure. Put the concluding paragraph first, then work backwards through the supporting paragraphs till you get to the original question.

That style is much more engaging than traditional, overused, boring form of "Intro para -> 3x supporting para -> conclusion". Instead make a strong/counterintuitive/nonobvious/etc unsupported assertion right off the bat, then work backwards to support it.

That initial assertion captures peoples attention much more effectively than a slow build up, b/c they then want to read on to find out if the author can actually support it, and are gratified when you do.

Re:Why we're doing things that don't scale by dragonwriter on Thursday July 25, 2013 @07:42PM (#6105680)
> Good rule of thumb for this kind of audience - invert your essay structure. Put the concluding paragraph first, then work backwards through the supporting paragraphs till you get to the original question.

> That style is much more engaging than traditional, overused, boring form of "Intro para -> 3x supporting para -> conclusion".

No, its not "more engaging" than the traditional 5 paragraph essay, because in the traditional 5-paragraph essay format, the first sentence (the thesis statement) is the unsupported (to that point!) position which the rest of the essay supports. You aren't arguing for "inverting" the "traditional, overused, boring" 5 paragraph essay format, you are arguing for using the "traditional, overused, boring" 5 paragraph essay format in exactly the manner it is traditionally taught.

Re:Why we're doing things that don't scale by SkyMarshal on Thursday July 25, 2013 @08:36PM (#6105919)
Haha, fine, then I'm arguing for inverting whatever the current standard seems to be, or perhaps more accurately, reverting it to the original.

Either way, for blog posts, let's dispense with the long-winded intro.

Re:Why we're doing things that don't scale by dragonwriter on Thursday July 25, 2013 @09:49PM (#6106153)
> Haha, fine, then I'm arguing for inverting whatever the current standard seems to be

Insofar as long, rambling intros that don't get quickly to a point are the norm, that's a standard only insofar as "people don't bother to apply any writing advice anyone has ever given" is a standard.

Re:Why we're doing things that don't scale by rimantas on Thursday July 25, 2013 @02:46PM (#6104171)
They sell books. Maybe they don't want this kind of tldr audience.
Re:Why we're doing things that don't scale by SkyMarshal on Thursday July 25, 2013 @05:38PM (#6105171)
What I described isn't a TLDR, it's still a full essay, just with the most powerful/engaging content up front, instead of buried at the end.

In fact I've recently found myself reading blog posts backward just to skip the rambling pre-amble and get straight to the meat of it, but I still backtrack from the end to the beginning, filling in the details.

And, books != essays.

Re:Why we're doing things that don't scale by thirdman on Thursday July 25, 2013 @07:34PM (#6105658)
I agree with you, except that beginning a piece with an argument and then following that argument with supporting evidence isn't inverted -- it's Essay Writing 101.
Re:Why we're doing things that don't scale by SkyMarshal on Thursday July 25, 2013 @08:41PM (#6105942)
That's not quite what I meant. I'm saying, start with the conclusion to the argument, then work backwards through the supporting evidence to the argument, and conclude by reviewing how the originally stated conclusion satisfies it.

Can't think of a good example atm, but will try to find one and have it handy in case this topic ever comes up again.

Re:Why we're doing things that don't scale by coldtea on Thursday July 25, 2013 @12:28PM (#6103246)
>Is this a new writing style I'm unaware of or just plain laziness?

No, seems just regular plain laziness. On your part, that is, wanting the gist of the article to be spoon-fed to you.

Re:Why we're doing things that don't scale by jonpaul on Thursday July 25, 2013 @03:56PM (#6104582)
I read the book Practical Typography yesterday and this quote stands out: "Attention is the read­er’s gift to you." http://practicaltypography.com/why-does-typography-matter.ht...
Re:Why we're doing things that don't scale by professorplumb on Thursday July 25, 2013 @12:31PM (#6103267)
This is true - yet I'm pleased to see that the 37signals blog posts which are starting make it to the top of HN are those with more depth. For a while, it seemed like all of the ones making the front page were simple platitudes with no concrete examples or solutions e.g. http://37signals.com/svn/posts/3513-when-empathy-becomes-ins... .
Re:Why we're doing things that don't scale by steveklabnik on Thursday July 25, 2013 @12:04PM (#6103094)
... reading blog posts doesn't scale? ;)