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Re:Google Unveils The New Nexus 7 Android Tablet by megablast on Wednesday July 24, 2013 @03:13PM (#6098394)
Since I got my ipad mini, I have not really used my nexus, only for debugging my apps. The battery, screen, speed and so were all worse, and I never got used to the os as much as I have for iOS.

If I didn't need an android tablet, I probably would not have one.

Re:Google Unveils The New Nexus 7 Android Tablet by cheald on Wednesday July 24, 2013 @04:57PM (#6099042)
Uh, the iPad Mini's screen is 1024-by-768/163 PPI. The first-gen N7's is 1280x800/216 ppi. The N7's screen is noticeably nicer.

I can't speak to battery or speed as I haven't had a lot of hands-on time with the Mini, but I will note that the N7's slimmer aspect ratio means it fits nicely in a pocket, while the iPad Mini just plain doesn't.

Re:Google Unveils The New Nexus 7 Android Tablet by esolyt on Wednesday July 24, 2013 @09:23PM (#6100350)
Resolution is not the only criteria to judge a display. Color accuracy, calibration, contrast, gamma, viewing angles are also important.

I have both devices and I can comfortably say Nexus 7's display is much worse. Images appear washed out, it's not as bright as the iPad mini, it has worse viewing angles etc.

Re:Google Unveils The New Nexus 7 Android Tablet by scott_karana on Wednesday July 24, 2013 @05:23PM (#6099178)
Screen "niceness" constitutes far more factors than just DPI.

It could be contrast ratio, colour gamut, brightness, subpixel quality, viewing angles, reflectivity of coating, susceptibility to oils/fingerprints...

(I haven't used either, I'm just saying)

Re:Google Unveils The New Nexus 7 Android Tablet by oscilloscope on Wednesday July 24, 2013 @05:47PM (#6099322)
I've used both. I prefer the Mini's screen to the old N7: larger viewing angles, better color saturation/accuracy, less backlight bleed, smaller bezel.

The iPad Mini Retina will likely be the perfect small tablet for most users.

Re:Google Unveils The New Nexus 7 Android Tablet by rustynails77 on Wednesday July 24, 2013 @10:46PM (#6100629)
I just can't look past the poor resolution of the iPad mini - and on that basis alone, I would not recommend it to anyone, except people with very poor eyesight. I agree that DPI isn't everything. I think of it as like "stock" to a soup. Without stock (or with awful stock), you have no soup. The rest of the ingredients are important, but stock is king. iPad mini has foul tasting "stock" ;) Brightness is important, but not fundamental, viewing angles are less important when you're looking straight on or from a slight angle (ie. 99% of the time). I didn't notice a huge difference on contrast ratio (eg. differentiating dark colours readily). I would not recommend the current iPad mini to anyone with reasonable eyesight.
Re:Google Unveils The New Nexus 7 Android Tablet by snogglethorpe on Thursday July 25, 2013 @01:01AM (#6101003)
> viewing angles are less important when you're looking straight on or from a slight angle (ie. 99% of the time).

I find that with the ipad mini viewing angles actually do seem kind of important, because—unlike a phone—I very often use the ipad mini without holding it, whether sitting on a table, on my lap, or propped up against something while I watch a video. The result is that one doesn't have nearly the same easy control over viewing angle one has when hand-holding a device...

Re:Google Unveils The New Nexus 7 Android Tablet by NicoJuicy on Wednesday July 24, 2013 @06:30PM (#6099537)
And what's the price difference? :P
Re:Google Unveils The New Nexus 7 Android Tablet by wldlyinaccurate on Thursday July 25, 2013 @03:41AM (#6101338)
Yeah, this is the thing I could never get my head around. I know that the iPad mini is superior in many ways, but I just can't see how people can justify spending the extra money! The iPad mini is £110 - £190 more expensive, depending on which size you get. That's just too much IMHO.
Re:Google Unveils The New Nexus 7 Android Tablet by NicoJuicy on Thursday July 25, 2013 @03:40PM (#6104523)
iOS is user-friendlier in the start, that's true.

Android indeed has a "bigger" learning curve which make people more efficient in a short time for doing things with their phone/tablet.

Easy example, Tasker, Gravity screen, NFC and Autovoice...

Re:Google Unveils The New Nexus 7 Android Tablet by prewett on Wednesday July 24, 2013 @11:30PM (#6100750)
The original Nexus 7 is known to have extremely poor color calibration.[1][2] Both the Nexus 4 and Nexus 7 look terrible to me, everything is very blue-looking. I took a look at a Kindle Fire HD and a Nexus 7 at a store and the difference is immediately obvious.

I can't stand seeing pixels, so the iPad Mini is not an option, but I'm also not willing to spend money on a tablet with lousy color. Hopefully Google gets it right this time.

[1] http://www.displaymate.com/news.html#8 [2] http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-57479059-94/expert-claims-g...

Re:Google Unveils The New Nexus 7 Android Tablet by EpicEng on Wednesday July 24, 2013 @07:28PM (#6099876)
That's like saying that all 8MP sensors are better than all 5MP sensors just because they stuff more pixels on the sensor. Of course, that's not true.
Re:Google Unveils The New Nexus 7 Android Tablet by jonknee on Wednesday July 24, 2013 @03:52PM (#6098650)
Compare any two items in the same category that are 65% apart in price and it probably wouldn't make a lot of sense to choose the cheaper one.
Re:Google Unveils The New Nexus 7 Android Tablet by micampe on Wednesday July 24, 2013 @04:15PM (#6098799)
16GB Nexus 7 is $269, 16GB iPad mini is $329, the difference is 20%.
Re:Google Unveils The New Nexus 7 Android Tablet by scott_karana on Wednesday July 24, 2013 @04:26PM (#6098863)
The updated 16GB Nexus 7 is $229. That's a 30% difference.

You're also missing the fact that until this update, the Nexus 7 16GBs were only $199, which is a whopping 40% difference.

Re:Google Unveils The New Nexus 7 Android Tablet by micampe on Wednesday July 24, 2013 @05:04PM (#6099075)
My mistake, I looked at the price in the Play Store and looked at the wrong one.
Re:Google Unveils The New Nexus 7 Android Tablet by scott_karana on Wednesday July 24, 2013 @05:21PM (#6099167)
No worries! I completely understand.
Re:Google Unveils The New Nexus 7 Android Tablet by ProCynic on Wednesday July 24, 2013 @04:26PM (#6098855)
Actually, the story says that the 16GB nexus 7 is $229, so the iPad mini is 44% more expensive.
Re:Google Unveils The New Nexus 7 Android Tablet by jonknee on Thursday July 25, 2013 @09:33AM (#6102321)
The version of the Nexus 7 I was speaking of is $199 or less (Amazon even has the 32GB for $199 right now). The new version is a little more expensive at $229, but blows the specs of the iPad Mini out of the water.