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Re:NSA Phone Snooping Cannot Be Challenged in Court, Feds Say by betterunix on Friday July 19, 2013 @08:24PM (#6073786)
"Of course, such total transparency is a viable philosophical viewpoint, but unfortunately it's not really on the table in any of the current discussions."

That speaks more to the current political environment than to the validity of transparency or secrecy. We should be very concerned that we have gotten to the point where surveillance and intelligence collection are considered to be more important than the ability of the people to hold the government accountable for its actions via the court system.

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Re:NSA Phone Snooping Cannot Be Challenged in Court, Feds Say by quantumpotato_ on Friday July 19, 2013 @09:23PM (#6073929)
Yes. HN, please keep the discussion going strong. So glad to see the NSA's surveillance hasn't died off the front page.
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Re:NSA Phone Snooping Cannot Be Challenged in Court, Feds Say by igravious on Friday July 19, 2013 @09:30PM (#6073949)
Question. At what mythical point in time could the people reasonably hold their government accountable for its actions via the court system? I perhaps never got this particular prelapsarian memo as I may have been indisposed at the time.
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Re:NSA Phone Snooping Cannot Be Challenged in Court, Feds Say by res0nat0r on Saturday July 20, 2013 @02:08AM (#6074471)
This argument keeps coming up on HN lately. Either the HN echo chamber is in full effect, or just the age of people posting not aware of history...but secrecy has been alive and well and around long before 80% of the people on this website were born. Recent reference: The Cold War. I'm sure older references can be brought up if needed.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cold_War

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cold_War_(TV_series)

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