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Re:Statement by Edward Snowden to human rights groups at She... by brown9-2 on Friday July 12, 2013 @12:08PM (#6033321)
It is really quite hard to think of a reason why the US Ambassador to Russia would "[ask] her to relay to Mr Snowden that the US Government does not categorise Mr Snowden as a whistleblower and that he has broken United States law".

The fact that he has been charged with a crime is a pretty good indication that the USG thinks he has broken the law.

If you carry out Wikileak's line of thinking here, then anyone in any country who has been charged with a crime, no matter how severe or small, brutal or kind, should have the right to seek asylum from another country and that no state should interfere with that right.

Also, they continue to make the false claim that he has been made "stateless", which shows a purposeful ignorance of how laws actually work.

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Re:Statement by Edward Snowden to human rights groups at She... by Daishiman on Friday July 12, 2013 @12:17PM (#6033414)
He has been made de facto stateless. At this point actual legality is irrelevant. His right to asylum is real as well as his status as whistleblower; that the US recognizes neither is not grounds for rejecting either statement.
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Re:Statement by Edward Snowden to human rights groups at She... by twoodfin on Friday July 12, 2013 @12:42PM (#6033566)
Anyone who has their passport revoked is de facto stateless? That's nonsensical. Your passport is not your citizenship, and the U.S. would be happy to have Snowden back within its borders.

Or did you have something more specific in mind?

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Re:Statement by Edward Snowden to human rights groups at She... by nitrogen on Friday July 12, 2013 @01:11PM (#6033731)
Suppose North Korea charged and revoked the passport of one of its upper-level citizens for the same crime as Snowden. Would you not call that person de facto stateless, since their only option is to stay in the international terminal of the airport they're in, or be treated unfairly by their home country?
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Re:Statement by Edward Snowden to human rights groups at She... by twoodfin on Friday July 12, 2013 @01:27PM (#6033819)
No, I wouldn't. That person would still be a citizen of North Korea, but without their authorization to travel internationally.

Just because returning to your country would likely be unpleasant for you doesn't mean you no longer have a country.

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Re:Statement by Edward Snowden to human rights groups at She... by llamataboot on Friday July 12, 2013 @12:24PM (#6033458)
Anyone can seek asylum, that doesn't mean it will be granted. In this case it has been granted and accepted. Big difference.
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