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Re:Crowd steps up to fund 'NSA-proof' app by DanBC on Friday July 12, 2013 @06:58AM (#6031944)
> the alternative is for us to use products from large companies who we have seen will do whatever the US government asks them and call it legal.

> Your attitude seems to be that we should just roll over and let the NSA/GCHQ/etc take whatever they want. I disagree.

That's not at all what is being said. Many good cryptography products are open source. They have companies behind them because crypto is expensive - you need programmers and researchers and attackers and people to respond to security advisories.

"Don't use crappy kludgey crypto for serious uses; use established products instead" is not at all "Roll over and let GCHQ / NSA do what they want".

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