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Re:Movie Subtitle Fansite Raided By Copyright Industry And P... by sk00byd00 on Wednesday July 10, 2013 @10:35AM (#6019904)
Sure but then Netflix and Universal stealing translated subtitles from these "pirates" and including it on their commercial content is also piracy.

Thing is though, as a civil claim, the monetary incentive is clear on the movie companies side but not the "pirates". I suppose with all things being equal, in the spirit of fair play, we can expect to see headlines stating these people have been awarded a massive sum of money in the future right?

People get confused about copyright because it is confusing. It isn't what it was when it was created and your interpretation of copyright makes no allowance for fair use, and as far as I am aware those precedents set in the 80s still stand to this day. So until they don't, you're only half right.

Re:Movie Subtitle Fansite Raided By Copyright Industry And P... by wwhitman on Wednesday July 10, 2013 @10:54AM (#6020099)
>Sure but then Netflix and Universal stealing translated subtitles from these "pirates" and including it on their commercial content is also piracy.

Umm, no. It may be unethical but the "pirates" have no copyright protections for a movie dialogue unless they wrote the movie.

Re:Movie Subtitle Fansite Raided By Copyright Industry And P... by brazzy on Wednesday July 10, 2013 @11:04AM (#6020184)
They would have copyright for the translation if it weren't itself illegal - ยง103 of the US Copyright Act. But this may be different in other jurisdictions.
Re:Movie Subtitle Fansite Raided By Copyright Industry And P... by jeltz on Wednesday July 10, 2013 @01:11PM (#6021207)
Two wrongs does not make a right. Translations are derivate works which means the new author has copyright, but they cannot be distributed without both the author of the original and the author of the derivate allowing it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Derivative_work