Judge Orders U.S. to Release Aaron Swartz’s Secret Service File

Re:Judge Orders U.S. to Release Aaron Swartz’s Secret Servic... by phaus on Monday July 08, 2013 @06:34PM (#6009802)

This might be a good thing, but since the government has the option to release 100% redacted documents, the Secret Service hasn't really been ordered to release anything other than a stack of black pieces of paper. If they release more than that, it's because they either want to, or don't care.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/page/department-justice-black...

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Re:Judge Orders U.S. to Release Aaron Swartz’s Secret Servic... by joering2 on Monday July 08, 2013 @07:12PM (#6010020)

Maybe they can, BUT they won't.

You see, as The President of The United States of America pledged: if he gets elected, he will create the most transparent administration in the history of the USA!

So long story short, they will not redact anything.

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Re:Judge Orders U.S. to Release Aaron Swartz’s Secret Servic... by gwern on Monday July 08, 2013 @07:43PM (#6010158)

I can't tell whether you're being completely clueless or hilariously sarcastic & witty.

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Re:Judge Orders U.S. to Release Aaron Swartz’s Secret Servic... by ChuckMcM on Monday July 08, 2013 @08:44PM (#6010412)

I'm betting on the latter, and like gin & tonic with a spritz of bitters.

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Re:Judge Orders U.S. to Release Aaron Swartz’s Secret Servic... by sigzero on Monday July 08, 2013 @08:01PM (#6010244)

Definitely sarcasm...

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Re:Judge Orders U.S. to Release Aaron Swartz’s Secret Servic... by pvnick on Monday July 08, 2013 @08:35PM (#6010386)

Tangentially related: https://twitter.com/fisa_court

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Re:Judge Orders U.S. to Release Aaron Swartz’s Secret Servic... by rayiner on Tuesday July 09, 2013 @09:18AM (#6012485)

To be fair, the bar for "most transparent administration in the history of the U.S.A." is not a high one.

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Re:Judge Orders U.S. to Release Aaron Swartz’s Secret Servic... by raverbashing on Tuesday July 09, 2013 @07:23AM (#6012101)

Or maybe black ink is out, boxcutter redacting is in

Talk about releasing very transparent documents.

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Re:Judge Orders U.S. to Release Aaron Swartz’s Secret Servic... by medde on Monday July 08, 2013 @08:52PM (#6010433)

Whatever they do about one case doesn't tell you much

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Re:Judge Orders U.S. to Release Aaron Swartz’s Secret Servic... by argumentum on Monday July 08, 2013 @06:37PM (#6009818)

Nonetheless, we'll get to see how much is redacted and therefore how much they want to hide. That's valuable information in and of itself.

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Re:Judge Orders U.S. to Release Aaron Swartz’s Secret Servic... by phillmv on Monday July 08, 2013 @07:07PM (#6009989)

I predict his file will be incredibly boring/banal stuff, with the odd wild conjecture. The blacked out parts will consist entirely of things embarrassing to the agents who compiled it.

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Re:Judge Orders U.S. to Release Aaron Swartz’s Secret Servic... by jlgreco on Monday July 08, 2013 @06:44PM (#6009856)

I wonder if it would be legal for them to throw on a few extra all-black pages as "padding".

Not worth it obviously, but it would be an amusing hack.

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Re:Judge Orders U.S. to Release Aaron Swartz’s Secret Servic... by phaus on Monday July 08, 2013 @06:55PM (#6009926)

Like a couple pages of redacted "This page intentionally left blank"?

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Re:Judge Orders U.S. to Release Aaron Swartz’s Secret Servic... by jlgreco on Monday July 08, 2013 @06:59PM (#6009949)

Yeah, exactly! You'd have to redact the blankness of course, otherwise people would know what it was.. ;)

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Re:Judge Orders U.S. to Release Aaron Swartz’s Secret Servic... by benatkin on Monday July 08, 2013 @08:16PM (#6010315)

Either way, they get to collect IP addresses of those who try to view it.

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Re:Judge Orders U.S. to Release Aaron Swartz’s Secret Servic... by phaus on Monday July 08, 2013 @06:41PM (#6009840)

It would have the potential to be valuable in the future, if nefarious acts came to light via some other method, because it would potentially show that possibly illegal actions were taken to hide the information. However, if nothing actionable is ever discovered about this case, then the redacted documents would be completely worthless. Only time will tell.

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Re:Judge Orders U.S. to Release Aaron Swartz’s Secret Servic... by popee on Tuesday July 09, 2013 @07:53AM (#6012173)

Metadata :-)

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Re:Judge Orders U.S. to Release Aaron Swartz’s Secret Servic... by gngeal on Tuesday July 09, 2013 @08:38AM (#6012327)

the Secret Service hasn't really been ordered to release anything other than a stack of black pieces of paper.

Wouldn't that de facto qualify as a contempt of court?

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Re:Judge Orders U.S. to Release Aaron Swartz’s Secret Servic... by pedromorgan on Monday July 08, 2013 @09:12PM (#6010485)

aahh.. politicians and marketing machines settings the agenda.. sam's place same time and a steady stresm..

Maybe we get real and make it all Open Source.. and two sides.. Hell.. maybe we can KickStart a 200 millions cable submarine project ? ??

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