Re:Armchair air crash investigator
by bdirgo on Sunday July 07, 2013 @01:05PM
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I heard a reporter on TV reporting that the airplane was doing cartwheels on the runway, and I pictured the semi-truck being flipped over in Batman. And then I thought what the hell could have done that? Fishtailed makes more sense, thanks for the clarification.
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Re:Armchair air crash investigator
by austenallred on Sunday July 07, 2013 @01:23PM
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There were a lot of reports like these that were complete assumption based on the fact that one witness said the airplane had flipped over. It actually hadn't.
That is not a cartwheel
Why, because the plane was not 100% vertical on the Z-axis?
Yes
Just like the comment that Michael Hastings' car crash 'sounded like a bomb' resulted in all sorts of assumptions that the car exploded.
Re:Armchair air crash investigator
by stcredzero on Sunday July 07, 2013 @02:16PM
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I don't think airframes have quite the strength to flip end over end from contact with the ground, even at landing speeds. I can grab this pen rom my desk and throw it on the carpet so it flips vertically end over end. A 777 airframe might do something halfway between that and crumbling as it bounces.
Re:Armchair air crash investigator
by momavujisic on Sunday July 07, 2013 @04:10PM
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CNN just released video footage they have of the actual crash.
The plane (from what I see) after crashing does a near 360-degree turn with the right wing high up – in fact you can see that the plane is almost nose down-tail up which almost makes it look like it was cartwheeling.
Very surprising revelation, I really did not expect an airframe to remain as intact as it did after going through that.
Re:Armchair air crash investigator
by rogerbinns on Sunday July 07, 2013 @04:51PM
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Re:Armchair air crash investigator
by neurotech1 on Monday July 08, 2013 @12:24PM
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I looked at the video again and again, and ironically, if the jet had done a 360 on the ground it would have broken into pieces, but this jet did a airborne near-360 after the wingtip dug in and the jet became airborne again for an instant.
Re:Armchair air crash investigator
by WalterBright on Sunday July 07, 2013 @03:28PM
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With cameras everywhere on the streets, I am baffled that there aren't cameras on the runways. Many, many airplane accidents on runways would be a lot easier to investigate, including, for example, the one where the SST caught fire.
Re:Armchair air crash investigator
by timcederman on Monday July 08, 2013 @02:05AM
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There are runway cameras.