Re:The NSA Can't Tell the Difference Between an American and...
by steveklabnik on Friday June 28, 2013 @07:47AM
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I do think you're right that it's important to _act_ and not talk, but I don't think dismissing talk altogether is productive. I don't think that HN is the appropriate avenue for social change either, but social sites are sort of the contemporary equivalent of the town square, which is where social change _used_ to come from. In order to organize political action, talk needs to occur, and it needs to happen in a place that is public so as to attract passers-by.
Re:The NSA Can't Tell the Difference Between an American and...
by melling on Friday June 28, 2013 @08:32AM
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Yes, the Internet is a very public and it's a great place to discuss the issue.
http://www.reddit.com/search?q=NSA
I'm not trying to dismiss the discussion, in general. HN really isn't a good site to debate issues. Besides, I don't think people want to debate. Seems like they're just blowing off steam.
People seem to have a hard time trying to understand why the most powerful country in the world might want to try to influence other countries, or try to monitor foreign and domestic terrorists by mining data on the Internet, phone calls, etc. I think even small countries will try to do the same thing.
Yes, I also understand that some people don't want to build products, start companies, discuss cool technology, self improvement, science, etc. Maybe politics is your thing but this isn't the place to spend hours on end.
Finally, if you really do want to change something, it's going to take a lot of work. Signing a White House petition is just a waste of time. The endless Internet chatter isn't going to accomplish anything. It may require that you build something to increase government transparency, a better political chat forum, a political graph to better target government, or something a little more clever. It could be a crowd sourced project. Can we there 1,000 people here that want to contribute. I'll even pitch in.