Re:Chinese students and families fight for the right to chea...
by chris_wot on Sunday June 23, 2013 @02:18AM
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This is going to effect innovation and education in China very badly. If there elite University students are getting there by cheating, then it means there elites aren't really elite: just better at being dishonest.
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Re:Chinese students and families fight for the right to chea...
by vehementi on Sunday June 23, 2013 @03:18AM
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Devil's advocate: grades are a stupid thing; if someone sits in class and learns and for the exam needs to cheat in order to keep up with cheat-driven-grades-inflation, we have not made a comment about that student's ability or anything. The elites may yet be elite.
Re:Chinese students and families fight for the right to chea...
by chris_wot on Sunday June 23, 2013 @05:33AM
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All that proves is that exams aren't the best way of assessing someone's ability. However, cheating doesn't show ability in anything, other than deviousness.
Re:Chinese students and families fight for the right to chea...
by haarg on Sunday June 23, 2013 @03:19AM
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As opposed to the elite in the USA...
Re:Chinese students and families fight for the right to chea...
by pjscott on Sunday June 23, 2013 @03:37AM
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I went to school in the US. Anecdotally, the top students genuinely cared about learning. Most of the cheaters just barely got by, if that.
Re:Chinese students and families fight for the right to chea...
by Volpe on Sunday June 23, 2013 @08:32AM
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Anecdotal data point: My brother taught pure math in both Australia, and the U.S (in ivy league institutions). His view is that the quality of students in Australia (largely classless given the govt subsidies education so much) is leagues above the undergrads at top ivy leagues (who are there because of $$$).