This stuff sometime around like minute 45 or thereabouts.

I'm frustrated by them asking the wrong questions to the wrong people. They should be asking FBI about listening to Americans' phone calls. They're not dong it, in the bits I've heard, yet.

Edit: FBI did chime in on reading emails in real-time, indicating FISA court as the means for doing so, but nothing else I heard. (~1:28?) Edit2: Grunt. I clearly don't understand what's going on here. (~1:42). I'm just going to shut up for another couple days and see what the Guardian releases in response.

I haven't been able to follow the hearing from my desk, but I'm curious if anyone asked why the NSA director lied to Congress. Moreover, there were many questions prefaced with "Under these two programs..." These are the programs that have been made public. Who knows what they're running that is not public.

Correct. This is the same kind of very narrow denial that we saw under the Bush-era warrantless wiretapping programs as well. There are multiple programs.

All this info is stuff I wrote down during the presentation, yeah. It'll probably show up in a condensed form soon after the end of this.