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Re:Watch 2013 Barack Obama Debate 2006 Joe Biden Over NSA Su... by threeseed on Saturday June 15, 2013 @05:56PM (#5886411)
Well the NSA head did say that dozens of terrorist acts had been thwarted with the help of the phone records. Which could means that there are potentially hundreds/thousands of active terrorist investigations. Given that any one could be the next Boston Marathon, 9/11 or perhaps on an even bigger scale like polluting water sources or dirty bombs using material from poorly secured Pakistan/Russian nuclear sites.

If you were receiving daily updates outlining the creative and more sinister ways terrorists were planning attacks perhaps you might come to the conclusion that the US is out of its depth and needs every tool at its disposal.

Re:Watch 2013 Barack Obama Debate 2006 Joe Biden Over NSA Su... by fokov on Saturday June 15, 2013 @09:01PM (#5886911)
> dozens of terrorist acts

Which ones were real or could have actually pulled anything off? The underwear bomber? The guy that locked his keys in the car? Or the ones the FBI convinces others to attempt? The NSA has been doing this for a long time and have missed things like the Boston bombing while there was plenty of evidence that required further observance. Just looking at some of his public photos, it was apparent to me that he probably should be observed. Those didn't even require these new legal means.

Don't you think if they did successfully stop a really major terrorist attack either Bush or Obama would have ran with it in the open? If it happened in 2008, Obama probably wouldn't have been elected because people would have loved to see these new [horrible] laws stop 9/11 part 2. Bush would have said something like "We told you we needed this and we were right. Without these laws we wouldn't have been able to catch them. These laws saved thousands of lives today and will continue to do so in the future."

However, here we are and nothing major has been found. Now they have the potential for political blackmail that can stop all sorts of challenges to the establishment. One thing many people agree is that Congress sucks and both parties are out of touch with us. They will use these legal means in order to hold onto their power. I do not trust them in the least.

Also, if they can do this, why can't we attach live camera and microphones to all of them? Why can't we make all of their emails public? They want this access to us, why can't we have it for them?

Re:Watch 2013 Barack Obama Debate 2006 Joe Biden Over NSA Su... by adventured on Saturday June 15, 2013 @08:24PM (#5886777)
The NSA's claims are laughable.

These clowns couldn't catch the bumbling Boston bombers, who were about as unprofessional as terrorists get. And there was no shortage of arrows pointing to them.

Re:Watch 2013 Barack Obama Debate 2006 Joe Biden Over NSA Su... by GhotiFish on Monday June 17, 2013 @07:26PM (#5896632)
good luck finding those glowing red neon signs when they're floating somewhere in the middle of the ocean. We generate quiet a bit of data, us humans.