Re:Watch 2013 Barack Obama Debate 2006 Joe Biden Over NSA Su...
by mkolodny on Saturday June 15, 2013 @06:49PM
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2007 Obama's key point was that he would "provide our intelligence and law enforcement agencies with the tools they need to track and take out the terrorists _without undermining our constitution, and our freedom._"
He believed that security was not just cause for violating our constitutional liberties. In 2013, apparently that's no longer the case.
Re:Watch 2013 Barack Obama Debate 2006 Joe Biden Over NSA Su...
by joe_the_user on Saturday June 15, 2013 @07:01PM
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My point is that this statement promises everything for everyone.
Which means that it does not say what the result will be when a tug of war between goals happens.
The thing about Obama 2007 was that he was, in fact, giving Obama 2013 all tools he needed.
Candidate Obama promised law enforcement "all the tools they need" as much as he promised an end to all the wiretapping. President Obama is, in fact, right that there are choices between the powers of the police and the rights of the citizens. If candidate Obama had ponied up and said sometimes you do have let one guilty man escape, let one cop feel like their "hands are tied" to protect the liberties of Americans, then he'd have an argument. If candidate Obama had said "yes, there are tradeoffs but the seesaw had clearly moved in a dysfunctional and unbalanced direction that we have to correct", then you could honestly say he's shifted now. The candidate Obama I saw, was promising anything and everything and thus it's not the least bit surprising he is now just doing what's convenient. Course, the candidate Obama had a great ability to say things in a way that made people think he's saying what you want.
Just consider the beauty of candidate Obama's, uh, "languaging", President Obama still opposes illegal wiretaps, right? What President Obama is defending here is legal wiretaps, of course.