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Re:Watch 2013 Barack Obama Debate 2006 Joe Biden Over NSA Su... by miles on Saturday June 15, 2013 @03:25PM (#5886027)
This kind of shows the amount of power the people behind the scenes have on Obama.

No, this shows how willing Obama is to cave. We needed a Sam Adams or Lincoln or MLK and instead we got a Benedict Arnold.

Re:Watch 2013 Barack Obama Debate 2006 Joe Biden Over NSA Su... by jivatmanx on Saturday June 15, 2013 @04:14PM (#5886163)
It may be partly that he saw the Bush unilateralism and wanted more consensus-based governance.

The problem being that, in the executive bubble, where most of seats and nearly all of the money is held by the military-industrial complex, that's the consensus you will get.

Re:Watch 2013 Barack Obama Debate 2006 Joe Biden Over NSA Su... by kunai on Saturday June 15, 2013 @04:44PM (#5886243)
The more pressing problem is that many tough solutions aren't solved by committee, they're solved by leadership and expertise, a point where Congress fails, the executive branch fails, and where the roots of government (e.g. Constitution) start to fail under the stress of lobbying and corruption.
Re:Watch 2013 Barack Obama Debate 2006 Joe Biden Over NSA Su... by zanny on Saturday June 15, 2013 @07:20PM (#5886637)
Well, neither the RNC or DMC would nominate a Lincoln or MLK but love their Arnolds.