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Re:Free Official MSIE VM's for Linux and Mac by JunkDNA on Thursday June 13, 2013 @03:36PM (#5876085)
For a long time I was critical of MS for forcing developers to use their VirtualPC VM's because it just wasn't realistic: people use VMWare and VirtualBox as well as Macs and Linux. It was always an example of MS's frequent "plays poorly with others" behavior. Kudos to them for making it right.
Re:Free Official MSIE VM's for Linux and Mac by sljd on Thursday June 13, 2013 @03:54PM (#5876174)
What do you mean by "forcing"? I'm running Windows XP on VirtualBox without any problems.
Re:Free Official MSIE VM's for Linux and Mac by JunkDNA on Thursday June 13, 2013 @04:01PM (#5876218)
If you wanted to legally run multiple versions of IE without having to have multiple Windows licenses for every combination (e.g. IE8/XP, IE8/Win7, IE10 Win7, IE10 Win8, etc...) you had to use the MS-provided virtual machines. However, these were only ever made available as VirtualPC images. So there was no way to run them, even on Windows, without all sorts of machinations (some of which may have violated the ToS).
Re:Free Official MSIE VM's for Linux and Mac by rednukleus on Thursday June 13, 2013 @04:14PM (#5876287)
I was always impressed that Microsoft let you use Windows in a virtual machine on another platform at all (not all their competitors do). But then I realised that it made business sense for them.
Re:Free Official MSIE VM's for Linux and Mac by runjake on Thursday June 13, 2013 @04:25PM (#5876336)
Which competitors don't? The only competitor that comes to mind is Apple and they don't block this either -- though I believe they were the last holdout. Nor does Google, in any capacity, with Android or ChromeOS.

Edit: I am dead wrong. Apple only permits the virtualization of OS X on Apple hardware, per the EULA. It does not permit the virtualization of OS X on non-Apple hardware.

http://www.apple.com/legal/sla/docs/OSX1082.pdf

Re:Free Official MSIE VM's for Linux and Mac by rednukleus on Thursday June 13, 2013 @04:28PM (#5876351)
You still can't run OS X on non-Apple hardware can you? I'd love it if they changed that.
Re:Free Official MSIE VM's for Linux and Mac by adamcw on Thursday June 13, 2013 @07:45PM (#5877408)
No you cannot. They relaxed the EULA to allow virtualization of Mac OS from a Mac OS host, however. You can also use the same licensed copy that acts as the host.

The EULA revision came along with 10.8. Prior to that you could virtualize 10.7 Server, but once again, only with Mac OS as the host, and only with another licensed copy.

Re:Free Official MSIE VM's for Linux and Mac by gilgoomesh on Friday June 14, 2013 @03:03AM (#5878654)
The revision came with 10.7 (non server).

kb.vmware.com/selfservice/microsites/search.do?language=en_US&cmd=displayKC&externalId=2005793

Prior to that you could only virtualized 10.6 server.

Re:Free Official MSIE VM's for Linux and Mac by dudus on Thursday June 13, 2013 @04:43PM (#5876440)
Re:Free Official MSIE VM's for Linux and Mac by fuzzywalrus on Thursday June 13, 2013 @05:39PM (#5876771)
Hackintoshes are great... if you're content never to update :/
Re:Free Official MSIE VM's for Linux and Mac by wcfields on Thursday June 13, 2013 @07:12PM (#5877247)
Or have weeks of free time to root out issues with zero documentation except for random forum posts.
Re:Free Official MSIE VM's for Linux and Mac by derleth on Thursday June 13, 2013 @11:51PM (#5878166)
And a willingness to seethe with hatred at anyone who says they resolved an issue that's plaguing you without giving any hints as to how they resolved it.
Re:Free Official MSIE VM's for Linux and Mac by fowlerje on Thursday June 13, 2013 @04:42PM (#5876438)
Sure you can. They have 10.8 VMs for VMWare Workstation. I'd recommend at least 8gb of RAM for smoother access though.
Re:Free Official MSIE VM's for Linux and Mac by sluukkonen on Thursday June 13, 2013 @05:09PM (#5876597)
The EULA forbids you to run OS X on non-Apple hardware though.

"to install, use and run up to two (2) additional copies or instances of the Apple Software within virtual operating system environments on each Mac Computer you own or control that is already running the Apple Software, for purposes of: (a) software development; (b) testing during software development; (c) using OS X Server; or (d) personal, non-commercial use."

http://www.apple.com/legal/sla/docs/OSX1082.pdf

Re:Free Official MSIE VM's for Linux and Mac by ja27 on Thursday June 13, 2013 @05:17PM (#5876650)
"They" being someone that posted an image on bittorrent? Apple doesn't license OS X for VMWare anywhere except Apple hardware. You can't even run a 10.8 guest on a 10.7 host per their license, which is really annoying.
Re:Free Official MSIE VM's for Linux and Mac by scraplab on Friday June 14, 2013 @03:24AM (#5878717)
VMWare ESXi (and Fusion too, I expect) runs legitimate installations, with no hacks required, as long as it's on Apple hardware. You need the InstallESD.img file from the OS installer.
Re:Free Official MSIE VM's for Linux and Mac by btian on Thursday June 13, 2013 @05:04PM (#5876576)
That has questionable legality in the United States. I won't want to run it on my corporate PC.
Re:Free Official MSIE VM's for Linux and Mac by bdcravens on Thursday June 13, 2013 @05:33PM (#5876729)
For VMWare Fusion, not VMWare Workstation, I believe, as Workstation doesn't have an OSX version, and as others have said, their license doesn't allow for running a VM on non-Apple hardware.
Re:Free Official MSIE VM's for Linux and Mac by r0s on Thursday June 13, 2013 @05:06PM (#5876586)
I don't know OSX versions, is that a recent one?

More important, can I get the most recent versions of browsers? (Safari,Chrome,FireFox)

Re:Free Official MSIE VM's for Linux and Mac by freehunter on Thursday June 13, 2013 @07:39PM (#5877379)
10.9 was just announced last week at WWDC.
Re:Free Official MSIE VM's for Linux and Mac by mtdewcmu on Friday June 14, 2013 @04:25AM (#5878880)
It's possible to attempt using OSX on a PC through VMware, but I can attest to the fact that it works very poorly. We tried to do this at one of my jobs, and for development in Xcode, it was for all practical purposes unusable.
Re:Free Official MSIE VM's for Linux and Mac by gavinlynch on Thursday June 13, 2013 @05:32PM (#5876721)
True. And although there is a process to convert VirtualPC images to work with other formats, which I did (on OSX), however it was a major pain in the ass. Frankly, I love the new model. MS deserves to be denigrated when they do bad, and they certainly have a mountain of web-karma to countermand, but they did good in this respect and deserve to be praised for it.
Re:Free Official MSIE VM's for Linux and Mac by jsingleton on Thursday June 13, 2013 @03:57PM (#5876195)
I believe the previous official images were for Virtual PC or Hyper-V only.
Re:Free Official MSIE VM's for Linux and Mac by bdcravens on Thursday June 13, 2013 @05:34PM (#5876739)
You can install Windows XP anywhere, but I think JunkDNA was referring specifically to the distributed VMs for testing IE, which in the past were always VHDs.
Re:Free Official MSIE VM's for Linux and Mac by 1qaz2wsx3edc on Thursday June 13, 2013 @08:55PM (#5877713)
Yes, but all you had to do was rename the `exe` to a `rar` & extract the VHD. Which worked on VirtualBox. The criticism is weak.
Re:Free Official MSIE VM's for Linux and Mac by zzzcpan on Thursday June 13, 2013 @04:03PM (#5876229)