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Re:Germans accuse U.S. of Stasi tactics before Obama visit by TallGuyShort on Tuesday June 11, 2013 @06:18PM (#5865099)
Germany itself isn't the only reason I doubt the US would attack Germany. If the US attacked Germany, I'm sure most of Europe would side with Germany at this point. So it would be akin to attacking all of Europe. Not something that's worth a single NSA leak, I'm sure.
Re:Germans accuse U.S. of Stasi tactics before Obama visit by pekk on Tuesday June 11, 2013 @08:06PM (#5865604)
Why is everyone in this discussion assuming that the US would be attacking Germany if not for the awesome deterrent power of the EU? Seriously?
Re:Germans accuse U.S. of Stasi tactics before Obama visit by digitalengineer on Wednesday June 12, 2013 @02:50AM (#5866875)
Sounds crazy but the US has plans to IN-f*cking-VADE Germany's neighbour, the Netherlands if they were ever to do a crazy thing, like arrest US soldiers for war crimes and bring them to the International Tribunal.

..."The Hague Invasion Act,[3][4] since such freeing of US citizens by force might only be possible through an invasion of The Hague, Netherlands, the seat of several international criminal courts and the seat of the Dutch government."

See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Service-Members%27_Pro...

Re:Germans accuse U.S. of Stasi tactics before Obama visit by arethuza on Wednesday June 12, 2013 @05:12AM (#5867210)
Countries have all kinds of crazy plans in place in case crazy things happen.

e.g. The UK had plans involving "shooting guards at American nuclear weapon stores in England if they proved uncooperative"

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/this-britain/in-the-eve...

Re:Germans accuse U.S. of Stasi tactics before Obama visit by digitalengineer on Wednesday June 12, 2013 @07:17AM (#5867506)
Correct. But the International Tribunal isn't exactly 'a crazy thing*. Would it be 'crazy' to uphold (Coalition) troops to the same standard as 'the bad guys'?
Re:Germans accuse U.S. of Stasi tactics before Obama visit by arethuza on Wednesday June 12, 2013 @07:53AM (#5867592)
Personally, I think it is a great thing (I'd ship a certain former Prime Minister off to it) - but I'm not American.
Re:Germans accuse U.S. of Stasi tactics before Obama visit by TallGuyShort on Tuesday June 11, 2013 @08:27PM (#5865679)
What in my post led you to believe I think there's even a remote chance of that happening?
Re:Germans accuse U.S. of Stasi tactics before Obama visit by Dylan16807 on Wednesday June 12, 2013 @12:05AM (#5866486)
Motive and deterrence are orthogonal.

Nobody said anything about motive because there is no realistic motive. These 'assumptions' you're seeing are wholly in your own head.

There is, however, real deterrence, and it's interesting to explore its shape.

Re:Germans accuse U.S. of Stasi tactics before Obama visit by onli on Tuesday June 11, 2013 @06:21PM (#5865113)
Of course not worth it. Think i just minded the "powerful".