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Re:Inside the NSA's Ultra-Secret China Hacking Group by mtgx on Monday June 10, 2013 @05:22PM (#5856987)
So is it official? China is the "enemy" now? Otherwise, how are they justifying the attacks?
Re:Inside the NSA's Ultra-Secret China Hacking Group by oinksoft on Monday June 10, 2013 @07:44PM (#5858408)
No .. the US is hacking/spying on every worthwhile entity. And so is everybody else. It doesn't mean a thing about who the "enemy" is. This is the status quo; it's Spy vs. Spy.

Example: http://intelnews.org/2011/02/07/01-652/

Re:Inside the NSA's Ultra-Secret China Hacking Group by tptacek on Monday June 10, 2013 @08:39PM (#5858719)
Why do they need to justify the attacks to you? You understand that even our closest allies spy on us, right?
Re:Inside the NSA's Ultra-Secret China Hacking Group by brown9-2 on Monday June 10, 2013 @06:06PM (#5857639)
I think a lot of this has to do with flexing muscles for the US/China summit over this past weekend.
Re:Inside the NSA's Ultra-Secret China Hacking Group by youngerdryas on Monday June 10, 2013 @05:41PM (#5857276)
Are there any grown ups left on HN?
Re:Inside the NSA's Ultra-Secret China Hacking Group by inthewind on Monday June 10, 2013 @07:18PM (#5858234)
Best go back to email lists and/or nntp.
Re:Inside the NSA's Ultra-Secret China Hacking Group by stfu on Monday June 10, 2013 @05:41PM (#5857278)
That is pretty much the agenda. Once the terrorism narrative turns fully into a joke and people don't take it serious anymore the narrative for China as the new enemy must be in place. But so long we play along.

You can hear already hear the sound of "cold war reloaded" in Kissinger's talk at the World Economic Forum: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZh5cfJxHz4

Re:Inside the NSA's Ultra-Secret China Hacking Group by samstave on Monday June 10, 2013 @05:49PM (#5857421)
I am trying to recall who said it - but there were two quotes I heard in the last deacade: "We will be at war with China by 2020" and "We will be at war with China within 20 years."

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Given the info I had with respect to how China was actively hacking companies like Lockheed, pretty successfully, as early as 2005 - I have never found the above to be too far fetched.

After reading the article "China invades Africa" -- an article talking about the resource land-grab that China was on in that continent, as well as understanding the US' strangle-hold on Oil in the Mid-East as well as Lithium (and Opium) in Afghanistan, and the talk that "China was on a 50-100 year long-game resource capturing plan" -- it would seem to me that the US is playing the more short term plan for Oil/Electronic resources - whereby large scale battles over the other more "mundane" resources will be expected in ~20 years.

/wild-speculation-fun-thought-exercise