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Re:Tech companies, bristling, concede to government surveill... by einhverfr on Saturday June 08, 2013 @12:04AM (#5843741)
Keep in mind that for all practical purposes, prisoners are in a position of involuntary servitude for the private gain of others (what is perhaps the simplest definition of slavery one can construct).
Re:Tech companies, bristling, concede to government surveill... by jlgreco on Saturday June 08, 2013 @12:21AM (#5843782)
Too add to what you are saying, here is the section 1 of the 13th amendment:

"Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction."

Slavery is straight up legal in America if you first secure a conviction. Anyone who pretends to themselves that we are not still openly using slave labor is absolutely delusional.

Re:Tech companies, bristling, concede to government surveill... by einhverfr on Saturday June 08, 2013 @12:23AM (#5843788)
Read "The Servile State" by Hilaire Belloc for where this is leading ;-)

For lower classes, prison (and prison servitude) is becoming the safety net.

Re:Tech companies, bristling, concede to government surveill... by tolmasky on Saturday June 08, 2013 @12:25AM (#5843791)
And if you don't believe this or think its hyperbole, just remember that it's precisely why the 13th amendment contains the phrase "except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted"
Re:Tech companies, bristling, concede to government surveill... by einhverfr on Saturday June 08, 2013 @12:54AM (#5843863)
Also note that for a segment of the population, that is the safety net too, just as Hilaire Belloc predicted in "The Servile State" (which he wrote in 1914).