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Re:Obama: No warrantless wiretaps if you elect me (2008) by jeffdavis on Friday June 07, 2013 @11:14AM (#5839355)
Morality is of little use without a plan to implement it. True moral conviction will search for a way to achieve moral progress.

Lincoln was vastly more effective than others, and I attribute that to his strong morality.

Re:Obama: No warrantless wiretaps if you elect me (2008) by JamisonM on Friday June 07, 2013 @11:23AM (#5839403)
I agree. He likely understood that a separate south was likely to support slavery for much longer than a south that was part of a union that tolerated slavery in the south for a time, even if the civil war had not occurred. In which case preservation of the union was important to achieving some form of moral progress.