Re:Oculus Rift co-founder killed by gang trying to escape po...
by superuser2 on Saturday June 01, 2013 @12:20PM
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Why would your car be towed for having open windows?
Re:Oculus Rift co-founder killed by gang trying to escape po...
by HarryHirsch on Saturday June 01, 2013 @01:20PM
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Because open windows are an invitation for thieves. The Germans argue quite sensibly that you have an obligation to your fellow man to keep crime down.
Re:Oculus Rift co-founder killed by gang trying to escape po...
by CamperBob2 on Saturday June 01, 2013 @04:41PM
(#5805913)
Wow. IMHO, towing my car from a legal parking place because I left the windows down (or -- Gott bewahre! -- the convertible top open) is a crime.
Re:Oculus Rift co-founder killed by gang trying to escape po...
by grannyg00se on Saturday June 01, 2013 @03:55PM
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What the hell? So are home alarms (with prominently displayed window stickers) mandatory by law?
What if I leave my cell phone out on the table while I'm eating at a restaurant? By-law infraction?
Re:Oculus Rift co-founder killed by gang trying to escape po...
by Kequc on Saturday June 01, 2013 @04:51PM
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There's no such thing as a slippery slope.
If you leave your windows open and aren't there then people can easily steal from you and then cost the public money. Nobody was penalised, simply contacted and asked to close the window on their car.
Re:Oculus Rift co-founder killed by gang trying to escape po...
by katbyte on Saturday June 01, 2013 @06:32PM
(#5806318)
However if they had not been able to contact someone:
> police is forced to tow the car in that case, if they cannot reach someone
Re:Oculus Rift co-founder killed by gang trying to escape po...
by Kequc on Saturday June 01, 2013 @10:20PM
(#5807029)
If they cannot contact you then you have been breaking the law. Why?
Re:Oculus Rift co-founder killed by gang trying to escape po...
by Argorak on Sunday June 02, 2013 @03:43AM
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You have been breaking the law before they contact you. They are just sometimes nice like that. In contrast to the
If you want to know the specific part of the traffic law: StVO § 14, 2 (safety when entering and exiting the vehicle) [http://dejure.org/gesetze/StVO/14.html]:
"Kraftfahrzeuge sind auch gegen unbefugte Benutzung zu sichern."
(Vehicles are to be protected against unauthorized use.)
Also, your insurance might not like this ;).
As I said before, the german law is much more build around responsibilities. This is one example.
Also, registering stuff like SIM cards on an address you are not registered at is also perfectly fine as that information is stricly for the state. The only interesting value for such companies to get hold from me is the Personalausweisnummer (id card number).
This might differ for outsiders as companies want a valid statement that you have an address here.
However, the german police is very good at finding people (and things), as there is a record on where most of your relatives live... Due to all that being rather complete, it works very well. I had a case where the police called my home number because my brothers car window was wide open on a parking lot in front of his house, 600km away. The police is forced to tow the car in that case, if they cannot reach someone. Also, cars are often tracked by paint. If someone flees in a car involved in a crash, the car can often be found, as paint is very unique to cars and locations (statistically). The databases for this are big and germans are generally okay with them.
There is sometimes a way to put screws on other people where possible. Example speeding: if someone speeds in a car, the registered owner will be asked first, even if the person on the picture is someone else. If the owner is unwilling to identify the person, restrictions might be put on him, e.g. writing a trip journal where he enters each and every trip and driver. Everyone wants to avoid that.
Also, germans prefer to game the system, not to wage war on it ;). Speeding is still rampant and there is a huge number of lawyers specialized on traffic laws that know all tricks to get you out of a ticket. Suing for a 40 Euro ticket is nothing unheard of.