Re: Letter from Loretto - A Prison Letter from a CIA Whistle...
by tptacek on Thursday May 30, 2013 @08:49PM
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It is possible for both things to be true simultaneously: that the specific illegal disclosures Kiriakou made were crimes, and that the torture of detainees at Guantanamo and in sites around the middle east were also (grave) crimes.
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Re: Letter from Loretto - A Prison Letter from a CIA Whistle...
by vkou on Thursday May 30, 2013 @08:53PM
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That it might be. However, the state is remarkably adept at not pursuing crimes that its agents commit... Unless those crimes harm the interests of the ruling class.
There's a pretty clear - and abhorrent power imbalance at play, here.
Re: Letter from Loretto - A Prison Letter from a CIA Whistle...
by tptacek on Thursday May 30, 2013 @08:55PM
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Or, the state is adept at making the cases it can actually make, and less adept at making systemic cases whose prosecution would cost tens of millions of dollars and seize up operations at intelligence services that actually do need to function, for instance to curb proliferation of nuclear weapons.
Reasonable people can OBVIOUSLY disagree on this point, but I do not perceive Barack Obama as someone who is sanguine about torture.
Re: Letter from Loretto - A Prison Letter from a CIA Whistle...
by pkinsky on Thursday May 30, 2013 @10:15PM
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Is that perception based on his public speech or on his actions?
Re: Letter from Loretto - A Prison Letter from a CIA Whistle...
by doe88 on Friday May 31, 2013 @02:24AM
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Personally, if i were sanguine about torture I would have already closed Guantanamo.
Re: Letter from Loretto - A Prison Letter from a CIA Whistle...
by trotsky on Friday May 31, 2013 @12:04AM
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It's very difficult these days to not violate federal criminal statute in one way or another, doubly so for someone who works for the government in a high security environment. The fact that most people never get prosecuted for these crimes boils down to discretion and investigatory focus. Based on my experiece I doubt more than a tiny fraction of intelligence workers haven't violated secrecy laws in some mild form, such as casual conversation between coworkers or ex-coworkers.