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Re:Apple’s Ive Seen Risking iOS 7 Delay on Software Overhaul by sheri on Monday May 27, 2013 @10:24AM (#5774723)
Taking a step back, I find it really cool that these days a drastic visual and interaction overhaul is possible without changing the physical device. Just updating the software is almost tantamount to waking up with a brand new phone in ones pocket.
Re:Apple’s Ive Seen Risking iOS 7 Delay on Software Overhaul by coldcode on Monday May 27, 2013 @10:32AM (#5774749)
Article really tells you nothing new. Hopefully in two weeks we'll know the real story.
Re:Apple’s Ive Seen Risking iOS 7 Delay on Software Overhaul by kmfrk on Monday May 27, 2013 @11:30AM (#5774971)
I hope someone will write a post mortem to look at all the rumours that were floated up to WWDC.

It's a shame Maciej retired wrongtomorrow.com.

Re:Apple’s Ive Seen Risking iOS 7 Delay on Software Overhaul by youngerdryas on Monday May 27, 2013 @11:53AM (#5775058)
I would be absolutely shocked if we didn't know the whole story in two weeks. Apple loves their schedules.
Re:Apple’s Ive Seen Risking iOS 7 Delay on Software Overhaul by magoon on Monday May 27, 2013 @10:57AM (#5774831)
I know skeumorphism has its critics, but I'm concerned Ive's final product will look just like what Microsoft and Google have been doing. That's not a bad thing, just uninspiring.
Re:Apple’s Ive Seen Risking iOS 7 Delay on Software Overhaul by gnaffle on Monday May 27, 2013 @11:58AM (#5775080)
I don't think anyone who has read a bit about how Apple and especially Ive works are very concerned about that. Their primary concern isn't first and foremost how things look, but how they work.
Re:Apple’s Ive Seen Risking iOS 7 Delay on Software Overhaul by general_failure on Monday May 27, 2013 @12:34PM (#5775241)
Here's wishing Ive all the very best. I am not an apple fan by any means and in fact don't wish well for them at all. But it's undeniable that Apple has had a very positive effect on software in the past 3-4 years. But we need Apple to move so as to move the other sloths in our industry.

(As an example, look at the PC hardware landscape. The PC OEMs are astoundingly imcompetent and seem incapable of producing any tangible competition ot the Air and Pro)

Re:Apple’s Ive Seen Risking iOS 7 Delay on Software Overhaul by kreeger on Monday May 27, 2013 @10:09AM (#5774690)
My favorite line from the article:

"Even so, his specialty has been hardware, designing a product out of materials such as aluminum and glass - not software, which is based in code."

I've been writing software wrong all these years!

Re:Apple’s Ive Seen Risking iOS 7 Delay on Software Overhaul by JohnTHaller on Monday May 27, 2013 @10:22AM (#5774720)
My software is about 10% aluminum. I find adding aluminum shavings helps my blue code crack just right.
Re:Apple’s Ive Seen Risking iOS 7 Delay on Software Overhaul by rubinelli on Monday May 27, 2013 @11:50AM (#5775046)
Let me guess, were you writing bare-metal C?
Re:Apple’s Ive Seen Risking iOS 7 Delay on Software Overhaul by JohnTHaller on Monday May 27, 2013 @10:02AM (#5774664)
In addition to design, it'll be interesting to see if Apple catches up (widgets, etc) and finally breaks out of the grid of icons we've all been rocking since the original Palm Pilot and Windows 3.0.
Re:Apple’s Ive Seen Risking iOS 7 Delay on Software Overhaul by bluthru on Monday May 27, 2013 @10:51AM (#5774807)
Complexity isn't better design. Apple had widgets back in OS X 10.4. Not having widgets is a design decision, not being "behind".
Re:Apple’s Ive Seen Risking iOS 7 Delay on Software Overhaul by nevir on Monday May 27, 2013 @11:26AM (#5774956)
True, but iOS doesn't address the core reason behind widgets very well: users want a more relevant at-a-glance view of things.

Notification center doesn't cut it.

Re:Apple’s Ive Seen Risking iOS 7 Delay on Software Overhaul by MatthewPhillips on Monday May 27, 2013 @12:00PM (#5775090)
> Complexity isn't better design.

Neither is simplicity. Balance is important. Taking away features makes something more simple, but not necessarily better. If it did we'd all be using Jitterbugs.

Re:Apple’s Ive Seen Risking iOS 7 Delay on Software Overhaul by sigzero on Monday May 27, 2013 @10:29AM (#5774740)
I wonder if Ive's reads this stuff and just smiles.
Re:Apple’s Ive Seen Risking iOS 7 Delay on Software Overhaul by abdophoto on Monday May 27, 2013 @10:59AM (#5774841)
How is this near the top of HN? This news has been out and suggested to be false for weeks now.
Re:Apple’s Ive Seen Risking iOS 7 Delay on Software Overhaul by 37prime on Monday May 27, 2013 @04:15PM (#5776373)
Pretty obvious that Bloomberg has no real news source on this. Pure speculations based on the same rumors regurgitated by other sites.
Re:Apple’s Ive Seen Risking iOS 7 Delay on Software Overhaul by youngerdryas on Monday May 27, 2013 @10:57AM (#5774833)
There is some risk here for Apple. A good part of the reason people like their products is that they don't have to wander through a mish mash of paradigms and it is fairly intuitive. Breaking existing patterns, while overdue, is going to aggravate some users while being seen as not going far enough by others. I will likely be in the latter.
Re:Apple’s Ive Seen Risking iOS 7 Delay on Software Overhaul by ChrisClark on Monday May 27, 2013 @11:04AM (#5774859)
I'd hate to be the one in charge of that type of transition. I think you can say one good thing about all the different UI changes manufacturers make on top of Android, it let Google start clean with 3.0 and 4.0 without changing it on a bunch of current users.

After all, not many use the default theme anyway. :( I think it looks the best, but try telling Samsung and HTC that. At least they all need to include the Holo theme from now on so apps can choose to use it if they want to.

Re:Apple’s Ive Seen Risking iOS 7 Delay on Software Overhaul by eterm on Monday May 27, 2013 @11:08AM (#5774877)
2.2 default was ugly, HTC sense was way ahead of the pack on skinning and integration, but certainly with 4.0 the default is beautiful and nicer than Samsung's certainly. (I've not tried HTC since 2.x)