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Re:“Printcrime” by Cory Doctorow by DoubleMalt on Friday May 24, 2013 @10:08AM (#5762824)
I remembered the story when I was reading the musings of the Australian police about regulating the cad files.

As soon as 3d printers will be able to replicate themselves, every regulation will be moot. Information always finds a way to propagate.

Re:“Printcrime” by Cory Doctorow by smacktoward on Friday May 24, 2013 @12:10PM (#5763749)
Information always finds a way to propagate

There are 1.3 billion people in China who would probably disagree.

Re:“Printcrime” by Cory Doctorow by jbooth on Friday May 24, 2013 @03:41PM (#5764850)
You can spin up US cloud providers from inside China and tunnel to them in about 15 minutes. It's just that most people don't bother -- there'll always be the people on the edge, though.
Re:“Printcrime” by Cory Doctorow by e12e on Friday May 24, 2013 @07:01PM (#5765700)
You could. But someone unable to afford an account with a US cloud provider might not.
Re:“Printcrime” by Cory Doctorow by veidr on Saturday May 25, 2013 @10:23AM (#5767341)
Not to mention the fact that most people in China don't have Internet access of any kind.
Re:“Printcrime” by Cory Doctorow by tvon on Friday May 24, 2013 @10:45AM (#5763092)
> As soon as 3d printers will be able to replicate themselves, every regulation will be moot.

I don't get this. In theory, if it were illegal to print "Item #325" having 200 printers doesn't make it any less illegal to print "Item #325".

> Information always finds a way to propagate.

Doesn't this presuppose that no secret has ever been kept?

Re:“Printcrime” by Cory Doctorow by DoubleMalt on Friday May 24, 2013 @10:56AM (#5763173)
>> As soon as 3d printers will be able to replicate themselves, every regulation will be moot.

> I don't get this. In theory, if it were illegal to print "Item #325" having 200 printers doesn't make it any less illegal to print "Item #325".

It might be illegal. But the law would be unenforceable.

>> Information always finds a way to propagate.

> Doesn't this presuppose that no secret has ever been kept?

Valid point. What I meant is information that is out in the open. The cad files by Defense Distributed where published intentionally. You need a North Korean style regime to significantly slow down the propagation of such material.

Re:“Printcrime” by Cory Doctorow by e12e on Friday May 24, 2013 @07:03PM (#5765708)
Most places you're not allowed to carry a knife in crowds. Doesn't really matter if you've made it yourself or not.
Re:“Printcrime” by Cory Doctorow by Dylan16807 on Friday May 24, 2013 @08:37PM (#5765945)
You're not? I know some places ban very specific elements of 'knifes' that have nothing to do with how pokey they are for political reasons, but there are areas that actually ban having a knife?
Re:“Printcrime” by Cory Doctorow by fennecfoxen on Friday May 24, 2013 @11:15AM (#5763310)
Well, the other question is whether it will be legal to manufacture/sell printers which are capable of printing illegal things. If the printers are capable of self-replicating it will be implausible to enforce that sort of regulation.

It is presumably already illegal to 3-D print several types of 3-D things, where such things themselves are illegal or where there is some form of copyright, trademark or patent infringement.

Re:“Printcrime” by Cory Doctorow by michaelerule on Friday May 24, 2013 @11:33AM (#5763444)
the only secrets are the secrets that keep themselves