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Re:The myth of Nazi efficiency by mseebach on Sunday May 19, 2013 @01:41PM (#5733663)
So, settling the Jewish question was more than just killing the jews from one day to the other - the concentration camps were "just" the culmination of years of systematic persecution, beginning with boycotts in 1933, the anti-interracial marriage laws 1935, Kristallnacht 1938. In 1933, 533,000 jews lived in Germany, by the time WWII commenced, it was down to 214,000 - almost all of which were subsequently murdered.

The majority of the jews killed in the Holocaust were not German, they were from all the occupied territories, most notably Poland.

Endlösung didn't kill anywhere near 1/4th of the population - it killed 1/3 %, and that fraction had already been systematically marginalised.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_in_Germany...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Holocaust#Victims_and_deat...

Re:The myth of Nazi efficiency by Retric on Sunday May 19, 2013 @04:02PM (#5734189)
Exactly, the efficiency had little to do with the method of death, the methods where simply the an example of said efficiency. It's a twisted blueprint. First vilify them, second remove them from anything approaching important positions (collage professors etc), third separate them from society (concentration camps), and finally murder them site unseen. Of course each of those steps where rather complex but the specifics are less important than the overall process. Because, it take a huge number of people willing to do horrible things to create atrocities on that scale.

Arguably step one had been occurring for hundreds of years before the Nazi's rise to power, but they really pushed the envelope.

What I find fascinating is I suspect for a great number of the leaders they really where just looking for something to vilify at the start and things just snowballed. It was only latter in the process as this huge segment of the population because less necessary that the idea of killing them showed up. Something like mass sterilization would have been as effective if there idea really was a twisted form of eugenics and they had been forcibly sterilizing people there and even in the US. However, while the initial idea may have been slave labor they kept sending so many people to these camps that they needed a 'solution'.